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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    I've never thought of that before.
    I tend to see everyone as having their own mind and being able to make there own decisions. I do think about how expectations affect how well people do in society. Ex. If you expect a student to do well they will type of thing.

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    This came from this quote in another thread:



    I've seen this argument repeated by many posters in many other threads for the year I've been here and I want to know if this is a common assessment of black men - that they are brainwashed and consequently, do not have or are incapable of having their own thoughts. So, do you agree? Moreover, if you answer "yes", do you believe that black men are more "brainwashed" than any other race? And if so, why do you think that black men think less for themselves than other races?
    It's just racist bs. Of course they're not 'brainwashed', and anyone who would suggest otherwise has no clue what brainwashing is.

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Right, but nominal affects effective.
    indirectly. As you and I have discussed in the past, nominal rates have varied wildly without producing anything close to a comparative swing in revenues. But claiming that a nominal tax rate that is designed to be effective rate neutral is some kind of massive give away is simply inaccurate.

    And when those deductions go away(which is very possible since no one is willing to say what deductions)
    well it's not that 'no one is willing to say what'. I watch whenever Ryan is on, and he's thrown out a number of options. Its' just that such would come out of Ways and Means, which he doesn't head (but which it is an open secret that he wants, and will probably get). The directions in the budget is that every percentage point that is cut has to be scored neutral by stripping out deductions and credits; and it's not exactly like the math hasn't been done before. The President's own Bi-Partisan Debt Reduction committee lowered nominal rates significantly further in one of their plans while increasing revenue by about a Trillion dollars.

    will they not be paying a higher effective tax rate? Which is the essensce of the change, reduce taxes for the wealthy, pay for it by higher taxes on the poor and middle class, and reduce programs that benefit those poor and middle class.
    1. America has the most progressive income tax system in the industrialized world. It's not that we don't tax our wealthy enough, it's that we barely tax our middle income earners at all. If you want more revenue, you aren't going to get it out of the upper income earners - the money is in the middle class. You know how everyone talked about the Bush Tax Cuts For The Rich that were going to "cost" the treasury $800 Bn over 10 years? The middle class tax cuts "cost" the treasury $3.2 Trillion.

    2. However, the Ryan Plan doesn't do this. Nominal rates get switched over to two: 10 and 25%. Any reduction in deductions that was weak enough that the wealthy ended up with a net tax cut for the wealthy would produce the exact same result for those middle class households who itemize that you are so worried about.

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    It's really not that big of an issue and so many people seem to have a problem with it because they want to. I have white friends who I throw the word around with. It's not something we have a problem with. One day we were all listening to Notorious BIG at the house - not that that is how it started but this guy named Tom throws out "Nigga" - we all just looked at him for a second, laughed, and kept singing. They don't show up at my house and are like "HEY NIGGER!" - I mean if they did it just be rude - but if it's around people you know? It's not that big of an issue if you give it context.

    I personally take issue with the word when it's inserted in political rhetoric and the use is not even remotely joking. I take issue when it's one of those wink*wink* good old boy uses.
    I think it's kind of the same way with middle eastern people using the term terrorist. My friend says he's of the "terrorist persuasion." He's just joking around.

    Another time, a bunch of girls were running through the hallway screaming and laughing really loud, and then they ran out the doors. We just laughed, and he said if we wanted to scare them, we should run out of the building behind them screaming too with the brownest guy in the front. We all laughed.

    I think it's ok to make statements like that towards yourself or towards a good friend, but it's not the same when somebody is an asshole and calls you something racist about the color of your skin or ethnicity.

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Meathead View Post
    Politically the US black population is essentially monolithic, far more so than any other demographic. I expect that's where the idea of brainwashing comes from.
    lol

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    I keep asking for Republican policies that are anti black and all I get is "the southern strategy". The fact that you have to go back 40 year to a disgraced presidents campaign strategy tells me there is no Republican anti black policy you can point out so it is still a mystery to me why 92% of blacks vote Dem. I have asked here and in other threads for a black Democrat to tell me why they are Democrat and none has stepped forward yet. Maybe when they stop and think about it they really don't know. Maybe it is just so ingrained in their culture they would feel like an Uncle Tom if they voted Republican, that is what conservative blacks that call into conservative radio shows say. Until then we are just a bunch of white people that don't really know for sure just why 92% of blacks vote Dem. I truly wish one of them would step up to the plate and discuss this issue, I am hear to learn as well as spout my opinion.

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    As a woman, the most repulsive thing occurring in their move to shut down PP.
    Republicans have moved to shut down PP? I have never heard that - I thought they just moved to not have taxpayer money go to PP. Where have Republicans moved to ban PP?

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Republicans have moved to shut down PP? I have never heard that - I thought they just moved to not have taxpayer money go to PP. Where have Republicans moved to ban PP?
    We are not stupid. Most pro lifers hate PP and Margret Sanger and it's obvious, and pro lifers want PP shut down merely because they provide abortion services. It's not just about funding abortion, because the government can make sure that taxpayer funds don't go to abortion or even to PP surgical and abortion centers. Not every PP offers abortion, but conservatives don't make a difference. Conservatives turn their head when we point out that PP is helpful to women in terms of general health. I don't see Conservatives trying to make sure women have any affordable options whatsoever. The only thing pertaining to a woman's reproductive health that concerns Conservatives is abortion.

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    I've never thought of that before.
    I tend to see everyone as having their own mind and being able to make there own decisions. I do think about how expectations affect how well people do in society. Ex. If you expect a student to do well they will type of thing.
    I agree. I had a teacher in high school who expected us to go above and beyond in her class. She was the prime example of a great teacher. It's funny though because some students responded positively and enjoyed her class while others thought she was "too mean". I sometimes wonder if those people look back on that class any differently now that we're all older.

    But expectations is definitely something that impacts people and not just the direct expectations of family, friends, teachers and so on, but also the expectations that people see in society through the media, public figures and other societal individuals and institutions. For example, if people who look like you are more frequently depicted as gangsters and uneducated fools, then you might start to internalize that. Or if one group of society thinks that the majority of your race is brainwashed and can't think for themselves, I imagine that might impact ones worldview as well.

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I keep asking for Republican policies that are anti black and all I get is "the southern strategy". The fact that you have to go back 40 year to a disgraced presidents campaign strategy tells me there is no Republican anti black policy you can point out so it is still a mystery to me why 92% of blacks vote Dem. I have asked here and in other threads for a black Democrat to tell me why they are Democrat and none has stepped forward yet. Maybe when they stop and think about it they really don't know. Maybe it is just so ingrained in their culture they would feel like an Uncle Tom if they voted Republican, that is what conservative blacks that call into conservative radio shows say. Until then we are just a bunch of white people that don't really know for sure just why 92% of blacks vote Dem. I truly wish one of them would step up to the plate and discuss this issue, I am hear to learn as well as spout my opinion.
    It's the modern day rhetoric of the modern Conservative Party. Calling Brown v School Board "judicial activism" and saying Civil Rights Laws and desegregation is big government run a muck. Fighting against Martin Luther King Day, along with his anti segregated message, Reagan's Welfare Queen campaign, and that's to name a few. The party doesn't do anything outwardly racist. If anybody actually tried to strip away Civil Rights and desegregation laws, they would be opening a can of worms so it's just something they pay lip service too.

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