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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I'd like to see a link on that, Kandahar.
    you'll note that they stick to the programs. so, for example, 100% of the cuts to medicare are counted as "cuts to a program targeted to poor people" despite the fact that the largest cuts from from the wealthier individuals in the program itself.

    I would really like to see someone from the left give the "cuts to the poor" comparison between the Ryan and Obama medicare plans, given that the President's plan is to evenly cut Medicare across the populace, whereas the Ryan plan is to progressive cut Medicare, focusing the cuts in on our wealthier retirees. Obama's plan actually cuts more to the poor, but oddly, this doesn't seem to be getting much play....

    how they score the tax benefits is beyond me - they must be making some pretty impressive assumptions, especially since Ryan has stated that his preference to only remove those credits for people making more than $250,000 a year.
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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Words always have different meanings depending on how they are used. How would I react if someone called me a mother****er? Maybe anything from amusement to fear...depends who it was and what the context was.
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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    If you are in the top rates, your rate will be lower.
    nominal rates =/= effective rates. as you well know.

    When deductions are cut, well, deductions are taken by people at all economic spectrums.
    actually most middle-to-lower income folks take the standard deduction - which does not change. Fewer than two in five tax returns claim deductions such as those for mortgage interest and state and local taxes and, in fact, most Americans owe more tax as a result of these deductions being in the tax code. The benefits of itemized deductions overwhelmingly go to the upper income earners in America.

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I'm not talking about white people secretly harboring grudges against black people and spending time thinking about how they can screw them over. It's generally more subtle than that. And I don't doubt at all that many people exhibiting these prejudices will swear up and down that they aren't racist, and truly believe it.

    you have accused me of harboring "racial resentment", based on your emotional desires over fact, now you are saying I harbor racial prejudices, and am a racist, but don't know it?

    Please at this point you need to post anything I've said that can be construed racially prejudice, or you need to hush, or apologize, you cheapen the real issue of racism with your vile comments.





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    OK, well let's try this: I've already explained what I see as the "actual problem of racism in this country" (i.e. subtle forms of prejudice that people don't even realize, and believing that everyone is on equal footing in terms of racism). So what DO you think is the "actual problem of racism in this country," if not this?

    Well, that's a long subject and one that would require threads in and of itself, It think there are white racist, black racists, asian racists, etc... It think a society that create different requirments based on race, simply perpetuates the stereotypes that one race is inferior (quotas, etc), along with media and activists all to happy to look out for and make bank on fanning flames of racism...

    I also think, that things like vouchers would better integrate our schools and allow kids of all races to better see and understand each other. I could go on for on for days, but I get tired of asinine accusations that I am a racist that I see no point in arguing with the ignorant.



    And I think that attempting to draw a false equivalence between racism against minorities and racism against whites is vile and abhorrent, as it is a roundabout way of saying that racism isn't a problem anymore and minorities should just get over it.

    When did I say racism wasn't a problem and minorities should "just get over it", I never said that. Thank you for admitting your contention that I am a racist was based you lying. I appreciate the concession. Show some integrity now and do the right thing.
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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Ahh semantics, ok, let's call it prejudice and bigotry then, ok?
    Words have meanings. You don't get to make them up to fit what you want. If we are going to change the word "racist" to fit what we want, I could make it so that you fit it too.


    Uncommon is a much softer word than "typical" wouldn't you say, and once he makes the distinction towards, "white" he's making it racial, I am sure it is not "uncommon" for certain black folks to act a certain way around white people, Would I call it "typical"? Nahh... I tend to try not to stereotype people.
    Not much softer, but yes, it is softer. I think my word is more accurate than his. Niether of us could prove it however. We cannot discuss race without making things "racial". It's kinda the way of things.


    Thank you for your anecdotal, I am not sure however how to apply it. again, I am willing to expand the definition of "Racism" to cover bigotry and prejudice, but if you are not comfortable with it, let's keep it separate, I think, both your anecdotal and Obama's demonstrates prejudice, something that is really foreign to me when it comes to race relations, Maybe I am blissfully ignorant, but I've only seen people as people....
    Again, words have meanings. You can't just make up your own definition of racism so you can cry racist or accuse others of doing so.

    What started this was hatuey made a statement, my response was appropriate, as for the topic, i don't think black people are any more "brainwashed" than white people.
    Your response was factually wrong. Obama did not call typical white people racist.
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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    nominal rates =/= effective rates. as you well know.
    Which in no way changes what I said.

    actually most middle-to-lower income folks take the standard deduction - which does not change. Fewer than two in five tax returns claim deductions such as those for mortgage interest and state and local taxes and, in fact, most Americans owe more tax as a result of these deductions being in the tax code. The benefits of itemized deductions overwhelmingly go to the upper income earners in America.
    So, poor people do not claim deductions? Nope, you did not show that. Thanks, try again.
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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Words have meanings. You don't get to make them up to fit what you want. If we are going to change the word "racist" to fit what we want, I could make it so that you fit it too.

    Well, if you want to act vile, then by all means what's stopping you?





    Not much softer, but yes, it is softer. I think my word is more accurate than his. Niether of us could prove it however. We cannot discuss race without making things "racial". It's kinda the way of things.

    wait, so when you and obama are talking, it's just talkin "racial" but when I do it, It's "race baiting".... wow....



    Again, words have meanings. You can't just make up your own definition of racism so you can cry racist or accuse others of doing so.

    then Obama and his grandmother would be bigots and demonstrated being prejudiced, then, yes?




    Your response was factually wrong. Obama did not call typical white people racist.

    in your tight, semantical definition, you would be correct, Then again, I just clarified for you, it was a bigoted, prejudiced, racially insensitive statement.
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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Which in no way changes what I said.
    that is correct - it merely demonstrates what you said to be irrelevant.

    So, poor people do not claim deductions?
    they claim standard deductions, which do not change under the Ryan Plan. the itemized deductions that will be going away to pay for lowering nominal rates tend to be used by the upper-middle to upper-income earners.

    ..As the table shows, itemization rates rise as income rises. Only 7 percent of West Virginia tax returns with an adjusted gross income of less than $50,000 itemized, and nationwide, less than 20 percent of returns with an AGI of less than $50,000 itemized. However, over 93 percent of tax returns with an AGI greater than $200,000 itemized. The dramatic difference in itemization rates between the two ends of the income spectrum suggests that future tax reform policies that seek to end most itemized deductions while lowering tax rates across the board would result in a more progressive tax system and greater economic efficiency...

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    you'll note that they stick to the programs. so, for example, 100% of the cuts to medicare are counted as "cuts to a program targeted to poor people" despite the fact that the largest cuts from from the wealthier individuals in the program itself.

    I would really like to see someone from the left give the "cuts to the poor" comparison between the Ryan and Obama medicare plans, given that the President's plan is to evenly cut Medicare across the populace, whereas the Ryan plan is to progressive cut Medicare, focusing the cuts in on our wealthier retirees. Obama's plan actually cuts more to the poor, but oddly, this doesn't seem to be getting much play....

    how they score the tax benefits is beyond me - they must be making some pretty impressive assumptions, especially since Ryan has stated that his preference to only remove those credits for people making more than $250,000 a year.
    bumpity-bump-bump....

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    bumpity-bump-bump....
    Double thanks.

    I read that, too -- about Ryan only wanting to remove deductions from people $250K and over. OMG! Those poor peeeeople!!
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