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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    My dad told the story of back in the 60's he got to ride around a day with a couple cops in Detroit. So they are driving down Woodward(a bad part of town), black guys all over the place, burnt down buildings from the riots back then, when one of the cops rolls down the window and yells out "Hey Nigger!". My dad said he thought he was dead. Turned out Nigger was the name of this dog that was over with a couple of the guys, so people looked up, saw who it was, figured out what he was doing, and went back to what they where doing.

    Context, it makes all the difference.
    It's really not that big of an issue and so many people seem to have a problem with it because they want to. I have white friends who I throw the word around with. It's not something we have a problem with. One day we were all listening to Notorious BIG at the house - not that that is how it started but this guy named Tom throws out "Nigga" - we all just looked at him for a second, laughed, and kept singing. They don't show up at my house and are like "HEY NIGGER!" - I mean if they did it just be rude - but if it's around people you know? It's not that big of an issue if you give it context.

    I personally take issue with the word when it's inserted in political rhetoric and the use is not even remotely joking. I take issue when it's one of those wink*wink* good old boy uses.
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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    It's really not that big of an issue and so many people seem to have a problem with it because they want to. I have white friends who I throw the word around with. It's not something we have a problem with. One day we were all listening to Notorious BIG at the house - not that that is how it started but this guy named Tom throws out "Nigga" - we all just looked at him for a second, laughed, and kept singing. They don't show up at my house and are like "HEY NIGGER!" - I mean if they did it just be rude - but if it's around people you know? It's not that big of an issue if you give it context.

    I personally take issue with the word when it's inserted in political rhetoric and the use is not even remotely joking. I take issue when it's one of those wink*wink* good old boy uses.
    This is just imho. I hate the word nigger and would not use it with my white or black friends or colleagues. I do not even try to gauge ... how someone might take it or how close I am to them. I do not like it ... and I am a skinny white chick. I am not racist ... I just do not like negativity and would prefer to be positive and move forward.

    That is painful to think of our history and how people suffered. There is still a color line ...even after all the years W.E.B. Du Bois wrote of it. We have made progress as a nation yet we are not there yet.

    I would rather be affirming to people. One benefit of working in the healthcare field is the demographics are generally not racist. We are just a team of the human race trying to provide a service to our fellow members.

    The word symbolizes a very dark and ugly time period in our country. The white people that throw it around ... in my anecdotal experience are racist.

    This is just imho ... my 2 cents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Irony, you has it.


    Right, that poster, never says anything to me other than remarks about me on his ignore list. Dude hurls an insult, i remarked on it.

    But whatever, Any chance you get to hurl an insult at me.
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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    The flip side to that of course is the 'white people' that decided that Indian is an offensive turn and that they would prefer 'Native Americans'
    As I'm not acquainted with any Native Americans - nor do they have enough political influence to make commonly-held views in their community widely known - I really don't know if many of them are offended by "Indian." But personally I don't use the term regardless of whether or not they consider it offensive, because it's simply not accurate. Native Americans aren't from India.

    or the persistent PC labeling of all minority groups.
    It is simply not the case that white people told minority groups that they should be offended by certain words and phrases. Believe it or not, non-white people actually have brains and can determine for themselves what offends them. And if it doesn't offend them, it doesn't offend me.
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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Anyway, back at the computer for a moment before heading off to the gym, a quick good found wikapedia with the speech.

    A More Perfect Union (speech) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    Quote Originally Posted by Obama
    I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe.
    Quote Originally Posted by Obama
    The point I was making was not that my grandmother harbors any racial animosity," Obama said on WIP. "She doesn't. But she is a typical white person who, if she sees somebody on the street that she doesn't know, there's a reaction that's been bred into our experiences that don't go away, and that sometimes comes out in the wrong way, and that's just the nature of race in our society.



    So typical white people act in such a prejudiced way? Please redress, others, the kid who loves to tell me how much he ignores me, Can you explain how this statement doesn't cast white people in a racist light?

    Please as I've asked for years of you, put it in context for The Good Reverend.

    Let's try it without the hysterics, and without the insults that are nothing but attempts to divert....

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    So typical white people act in such a prejudiced way?
    Umm yes, generally that is the case. It's true that not all white people overtly use racial epithets or stereotypes; that's probably more related to Obama's grandmother's generation, which grew up in an openly racist society.

    But often discrimination is more subtle. White people are more likely to be perceived as competent workers than minorities, even under exactly the same circumstances. Blacks are more likely to be arrested for possession of marijuana than whites, despite actually using marijuana LESS than whites.

    I remember reading a study a while back, where psychologists showed white participants a political commercial which urged them to oppose a certain government social program for the poor. After they watched the commercial, the psychologists surveyed them to find out their views on the program. Unbeknownst to the participants, the psychologists actually showed them one of two versions of the same commercial. The two versions were identical except in one version, there is an image of a black family claiming benefits, and in the other version there is an image of a white family claiming benefits. The people who watched the version with the black family were MUCH less likely to support the program. So yes, the key to getting white people to oppose government assistance to the poor seems to be to subtly remind them that the assistance helps black people. (Republicans figured this out a long time ago.)

    Racial prejudice is a lot more entrenched in our society than merely being able to get through a conversation with a black person without blurting out "nigger."

    Please redress, others, the kid who loves to tell me how much he ignores me, Can you explain how this statement doesn't cast white people in a racist light?
    Obama's statement is mostly accurate, and even if it wasn't, racism against white people is nowhere close to on par with racism against black people...and trying to draw a false equivalence between the two is usually rooted in racial resentment.
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    Once again, another poster tries to infer that I am a racist or harbors "racial resentment". I find this practice rather vile, and cheapens the real issue of racism in this country. Shame on you.
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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Wrong. Black people ARE offended by those statements or we wouldn't be having this discussion. They didn't need a pat on the head from their liberal massa to know what Rick Perry was really talking about when he declared that South Carolina was at war with the federal government (and he did it in response to a voting rights question...on MLK Day). That isn't just ME being offended, that's actual black people being offended. And as long as Republicans continue to use rhetoric filled with racist code words like that, which they know perfectly well offends black people regardless of white Republican views of whether or not they "should" be offended, they will continue to win less than 10% of the black vote.

    You can rationalize it all you want and explain to black people why they "shouldn't" be offended...or you can simply acknowledge that they take offense and stop doing it. The fact that you apparently want to go the first route indicates a very deep-seated prejudice.
    So you have decided that blacks are and should be offended by those statements. As I said all you have is the race card and you are telling blacks what and how to think.

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    The Democrats have supported civil rights issues. It was a North v. South issue on that vote and filibuster.

    I was speaking collectively of numerous civil rights issues and certainly not excluding individual republicans support.

    My point was on one reason many black people support the D party.
    At the end of the day Democrats filibustered the civil rights act.

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Actually... that's kind of how it's gone. We're told we can't be offended by certain people saying nigger and not others because... well... white people like you will complain because we are not following some invented form of consistency you think you have to follow. .

    I mean honestly - I've heard certain white kids say it to their black friends. I don't get offended. They're not saying it to me. However I do get offended if somebody uses it to me and I've at no point joked around on that level with them. Tucker, The Rev and Kanda? Doesn't bother me. Caine, Empirica and Joko? Different story. Context is usually key in who can and can't offend but you've yet to tell us where you draw the line on the brain washing sand so I don't expect you to get why it's offensive when some use it and not others.

    The problem is a simple one. If black people think you're an asshole, you saying nigger, nigga or whatever - will - offend them. If they don't? They won't make a fuss. Daniel Tosh? That white dude could roll through Compton yelling nigga and niggas would wave at him. Rush Limbaugh? Not so much. It's not cause Daniel Tosh has a privilege that Rush Limbaugh doesn't have. It's because we know Daniel Tosh isn't doing it to make his white friends in the South smile and wink.

    Now here is a simple test: Go up to your black friends, if you have any, joke around, then throw nigga around. If they don't care, you're not an asshole. If they punch you in the face.... well.... there's your sign.
    Interesting you can't defend the original statements we are talking about, you have to use the term "nigga" as a straw man, next.

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