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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I don't see racism in those quotes, you really have to be looking to play the race card to see that. The fact is you libs can't name any Republican policies that would or should alienate blacks so you resort to clumsily playing the race card over and over.
    There it is again. This attitude that those things I just mentioned "shouldn't" alienate blacks, as though you are the expert on the subject and their opinion is irrelevant. If you KNOW that it offends them (whether or not you think it "should" offend them) and you continue doing it anyway, then you are intentionally being racially offensive. The unstated premise of the attitude in your post here is "We white people will tell everyone else what they can and can't be offended by, since they are too dumb to figure it out on their own." And THAT is precisely the attitude that I'm talking about which repulses minority voters.
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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    excellent point. getting into a legal dispute because Boeing ran into trouble in your state is clearly the actions of racists.



    racist, racist air plane manufacturer workers....

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    There it is again. This attitude that those things I just mentioned "shouldn't" alienate blacks, as though you are the expert on the subject and their opinion is irrelevant. If you KNOW that it offends them (whether or not you think it "should" offend them) and you continue doing it anyway, then you are intentionally being racially offensive. The unstated premise of the attitude in your post here is "We white people will tell everyone else what they can and can't be offended by, since they are too dumb to figure it out on their own." And THAT is precisely the attitude that I'm talking about which repulses minority voters.
    If you are black I would be interested to know how those statements offend you, if you are white you are guilty of speaking for blacks and guilty of what you accuse me of doing, here is what you said , "We white people will tell everyone else what they can and can't be offended by, since they are too dumb to figure it out on their own."

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Yeah, but then Johnson (who had himself fillibustered anti-lynching laws in the Senate) pushed it through over some in his party's objections and signed it into law. The reason he gave at the time was "I'll have them n**ggers voting Democrat for 200 years".

    Classy guy, was LBJ.
    i find it hillarious that there isnt much liberal response to your statement but just liberal silence,guess to democrats the best way to handle evidence or accusations is to ignore them
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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    if you are white you are guilty of speaking for blacks and guilty of what you accuse me of doing, here is what you said , "We white people will tell everyone else what they can and can't be offended by, since they are too dumb to figure it out on their own."
    Wrong. Black people ARE offended by those statements or we wouldn't be having this discussion. They didn't need a pat on the head from their liberal massa to know what Rick Perry was really talking about when he declared that South Carolina was at war with the federal government (and he did it in response to a voting rights question...on MLK Day). That isn't just ME being offended, that's actual black people being offended. And as long as Republicans continue to use rhetoric filled with racist code words like that, which they know perfectly well offends black people regardless of white Republican views of whether or not they "should" be offended, they will continue to win less than 10% of the black vote.

    You can rationalize it all you want and explain to black people why they "shouldn't" be offended...or you can simply acknowledge that they take offense and stop doing it. The fact that you apparently want to go the first route indicates a very deep-seated prejudice.
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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    well ... physicians and educated people are more likely to be liberal or progressive. I think the poll was a general question and not just political. Certainly a party that had a strong foundation of supporting civil rights would appeal to those of color yet each person has unique pov.

    Black men are no more likely to be "brainwashed" then white men.

    Again, imho the most indoctrinated groups are those that get most of their information from corporate infotainment,
    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Sorry but the Democrats filibustered the civil right act.
    The Democrats have supported civil rights issues. It was a North v. South issue on that vote and filibuster.

    I was speaking collectively of numerous civil rights issues and certainly not excluding individual republicans support.

    My point was on one reason many black people support the D party.




    The original House version:
    Southern Democrats: 7–87 (7%–93%)
    Southern Republicans: 0–10 (0%–100%)
    Northern Democrats: 145-9 (94%–6%)
    Northern Republicans: 138-24 (85%–15%)
    The Senate version:
    Southern Democrats: 1–20 (5%–95%)
    Southern Republicans: 0–1 (0%–100%)
    Northern Democrats: 45-1 (98%–2%)
    Northern Republicans: 27-5 (84%–16%)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964
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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I don't see racism in those quotes, you really have to be looking to play the race card to see that. The fact is you libs can't name any Republican policies that would or should alienate blacks so you resort to clumsily playing the race card over and over.
    He did not say there was racism.
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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    If you are black I would be interested to know how those statements offend you, if you are white you are guilty of speaking for blacks and guilty of what you accuse me of doing, here is what you said , "We white people will tell everyone else what they can and can't be offended by, since they are too dumb to figure it out on their own."
    Actually... that's kind of how it's gone. We're told we can't be offended by certain people saying nigger and not others because... well... white people like you will complain because we are not following some invented form of consistency you think you have to follow. .

    I mean honestly - I've heard certain white kids say it to their black friends. I don't get offended. They're not saying it to me. However I do get offended if somebody uses it to me and I've at no point joked around on that level with them. Tucker, The Rev and Kanda? Doesn't bother me. Caine, Empirica and Joko? Different story. Context is usually key in who can and can't offend but you've yet to tell us where you draw the line on the brain washing sand so I don't expect you to get why it's offensive when some use it and not others.

    The problem is a simple one. If black people think you're an asshole, you saying nigger, nigga or whatever - will - offend them. If they don't? They won't make a fuss. Daniel Tosh? That white dude could roll through Compton yelling nigga and niggas would wave at him. Rush Limbaugh? Not so much. It's not cause Daniel Tosh has a privilege that Rush Limbaugh doesn't have. It's because we know Daniel Tosh isn't doing it to make his white friends in the South smile and wink.

    Now here is a simple test: Go up to your black friends, if you have any, joke around, then throw nigga around. If they don't care, you're not an asshole. If they punch you in the face.... well.... there's your sign.
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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Actually... that's kind of how it's gone. We're told we can't be offended by certain people saying nigger and not others because... well... white people like you will complain because we are not following some invented form of consistency they think they have to follow. .

    I mean honestly - I've heard certain white kids say it to their black friends. I don't get offended. They're not saying it to me. However I do get offended if somebody uses it to me and I've at no point joked around on that level with them. Tucker, The Rev and Kanda? Doesn't bother me. Caine, Empirica and Joko? Different story. Context is usually key in who can and can't offend but you've yet to tell us where you draw the line on the brain washing sand so I don't expect you to get why it's offensive when some use it and not others.

    The problem is a simple one. If black people think you're an asshole, you saying nigger, nigga or whatever - will - offend them. If they don't? They won't make a fuss. Daniel Tosh? That white dude could roll through Compton yelling nigga and niggas would wave at him. Rush Limbaugh? Not so much.
    My dad told the story of back in the 60's he got to ride around a day with a couple cops in Detroit. So they are driving down Woodward(a bad part of town), black guys all over the place, burnt down buildings from the riots back then, when one of the cops rolls down the window and yells out "Hey Nigger!". My dad said he thought he was dead. Turned out Nigger was the name of this dog that was over with a couple of the guys, so people looked up, saw who it was, figured out what he was doing, and went back to what they where doing.

    Context, it makes all the difference.
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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    There it is again. This attitude that those things I just mentioned "shouldn't" alienate blacks, as though you are the expert on the subject and their opinion is irrelevant. If you KNOW that it offends them (whether or not you think it "should" offend them) and you continue doing it anyway, then you are intentionally being racially offensive. The unstated premise of the attitude in your post here is "We white people will tell everyone else what they can and can't be offended by, since they are too dumb to figure it out on their own." And THAT is precisely the attitude that I'm talking about which repulses minority voters.
    The flip side to that of course is the 'white people' that decided that Indian is an offensive turn and that they would prefer 'Native Americans' or the persistent PC labeling of all minority groups.

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