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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    So the Democratic party is seen as the savior in the US, because they proclaim to be the party that cares about blacks and the needs of the black community. So in the end it really is not brain washing. It is black people reaching out for something or someone for hope.

    Unfortunately to many do not see our system for what it is. Two party's that are two sides of the same coin out for one thing... Their own power and greed.
    I think that simplifies it too much. I agree that the Democratic Party offers hope and also that neither party is really living up to it's word, but I think a lot of black support for the Democrat comes from an actual evaluation of policy. It's not just about "reaching out for hope", but also about "I think the Democratic policies are better than the Republican policies with regards to my practical interests".

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    I agree. I don't understand, TPD, why you didn't clarify what Maggie meant in the original thread, and challenge her premise there.
    You obviously, like digsbe, didn't read this post where I did clarify. But it doesn't matter because no matter which post I posted she would have played the victim card, so...

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1060365379

    I also created the thread because I wanted to create it to answer your other question.
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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    and you don't think that one of these two victim mentalities is relatively inconsequential compared to the other?
    They aren't problems in and of themselves, they are merely symptoms of an over-arching systemic problem that really has nothing to do with race.
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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    This entire post pretty much sums up my view point on a lot of this. There is a victim mentality throughout the country. You have white people complaining that they are a victim of a "PC" society where they can't make race jokes, black people claiming that they can't get a job because of society, conservatives complaining that they're a victim of the liberal media and so on. It's just easier to blame someone else instead of yourself and that's not to say that there aren't real obstacles in our way, but that even when they're aren't or even when the obstacles may be overcome, some people choose to blame others rather than work to get over them. Rather than be respectful, some would rather blame political correctness for the poor reception of their words. Rather than work hard, some would rather blame society for their unemployment.

    And all of these behaviors are learned. And while I still think "brainwashed" is too dramatic of a term to describe that learning process, the process does exist and it is not something that is exclusive to black men. For the reason, it continues to strike me as nonsensical and prejudicial to single out black men as "brainwashed" into things like a victim complex. It's just not a rational position to take.
    what effects do you think these two victim mentalities breed within black society and white society respectively?

    Btw, feel free to speak your mind and generalize a bit if you want - i won't latch onto a specific word in your post and use it to start a new thread inviting the rest of the community to join in gang-stomping you for a few ill-chosen words. i'm not such a colossal douche.

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    what effects do you think these two victim mentalities breed within black society and white society respectively?
    Why do you assume that they breed different things within these communities based on the race of the community?
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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    They aren't problems in and of themselves,
    but surely such ingrained mentalities must have negative effects on black and white society?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    they are merely symptoms of an over-arching systemic problem that really has nothing to do with race.
    care to expound?

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    no not all or even most blacks are brainwashed any more than any other race or gender LMAO

    are their black people that IMO are blind to certain things? yep but I could pick any race and gender and probably come up with a blind group in all of them.

    uncle tom? sell out? Oreo? not used often in real life and not use often by objective rational adults.

    Coming from a mixed family myself and living in the both black and white world, family and community I see no evidence of brainwashing with one race or gender over another.
    I identify with that last statement a lot. I have family members and close family friends of multiple races. I pretty much grew up very aware of different cultures, particularly cultures surrounding blacks and whites which I think might have given me my perspective on race that a lot of other people don't have. I just don't see too many notable differences between races in many respects. What differs does so in content rather than form. For example, both races deal with the victim mentality FORM, but the CONTENT of that mentality is different. For whites, it might be more about political correctness and for blacks it might be more about employment. In each case, however, both races are dealing with a victim mentality regardless.

    It's just nonsensical to me, given what I've experienced of the world, to single out races for something like "brainwashing" or "victim mentalities" and such. I think that's the type of thing people do when they are, frankly, unaware of cultures and races different from their own. It's like assuming that just because you don't see something, it doesn't exist.
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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    what effects do you think these two victim mentalities breed within black society and white society respectively?

    Btw, feel free to speak your mind and generalize a bit if you want - i won't latch onto a specific word in your post and use it to start a new thread inviting the rest of the community to join in gang-stomping you for a few ill-chosen words. i'm not such a colossal douche.
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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    I identify with that last statement a lot. I have family members and close family friends of multiple races. I pretty much grew up very aware of different cultures, particularly cultures surrounding blacks and whites which I think might have given me my perspective on race that a lot of other people don't have. I just don't see too many notable differences between races in many respects. What differs does so in content rather than form. For example, both races deal with the victim mentality FORM, but the CONTENT of that mentality is different. For whites, it might be more about political correctness and for blacks it might be more about employment.

    It's just nonsensical to me, given what I've experienced of the world, to single out races for something like "brainwashing" or "victim mentalities" and such. I think that's the type of thing people do when they are, frankly, unaware of cultures and races different from their own. It's like assuming that just because you don't see something, it doesn't exist or seen it a couple times makes them think its the norm

    I couldnt possible agree more
    I think believing that brainwashing is more prevalent in any one race or gender here in america IS being brainwashed yourself.
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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Why do you assume that they breed different things within these communities based on the race of the community?
    I expect the effects to be different not because of race.

    I expect the effects to be different because mentality A (i can't tell black jokes because i'm white) is dfferent that mentality B (i can't get a job because i'm black).

    hell, forget race. how do you think a person's life is going to be affected from believing A versus believing B?

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