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    Should we overturn the 1986 automatic weapons ban?

    I researched this a little and was surprised to learn it wasn't President Clinton's 1994 assault weapons ban (expired in '04) that banned automatic weapons. It was a law from 1986 that's still in effect. In short, you can own a so-called assault rifle like an AR-15 or an AK-47, but it has to be semi-automatic. You can still own an automatic one if you can find a grandfathered pre 1986 one, but it will be extremely expensive. In other words, if you're rich, there's no problem in owning a fully automatic assault rifle. If you're poor, you can either settle for semi-automatic or get a conversion kit to convert it to automatic (illegally in almost all cases) and risk getting in big trouble.

    I'm wondering if it would just make more sense to allow law-abiding citizens to own fully automatic rifles like the AR-15. Seems like the same people who own a semi auto one without committing murder will be just as responsible with a fully automatic one. Then again, I'm not a gun owner myself and have just started to research this. In any event, vote your opinion. Should the 2nd Amendment give you the right to own a fully automatic assault rifle? Are you for overturning the 1986 ban?

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    Re: Should we overturn the 1986 automatic weapons ban?

    Why would you want a full auto AR? Even the Marines gave up full autos in their combat rifles. A full auto just means throwing rounds all over and up in the air. Besides, you can just buy a bump stock.

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    Re: Should we overturn the 1986 automatic weapons ban?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    I researched this a little and was surprised to learn it wasn't President Clinton's 1994 assault weapons ban (expired in '04) that banned automatic weapons. It was a law from 1986 that's still in effect. In short, you can own a so-called assault rifle like an AR-15 or an AK-47, but it has to be semi-automatic. You can still own an automatic one if you can find a grandfathered pre 1986 one, but it will be extremely expensive. In other words, if you're rich, there's no problem in owning a fully automatic assault rifle. If you're poor, you can either settle for semi-automatic or get a conversion kit to convert it to automatic (illegally in almost all cases) and risk getting in big trouble.

    I'm wondering if it would just make more sense to allow law-abiding citizens to own fully automatic rifles like the AR-15. Seems like the same people who own a semi auto one without committing murder will be just as responsible with a fully automatic one. Then again, I'm not a gun owner myself and have just started to research this. In any event, vote your opinion. Should the 2nd Amendment give you the right to own a fully automatic assault rifle? Are you for overturning the 1986 ban?
    No, I don't think we should overturn that ban.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Should we overturn the 1986 automatic weapons ban?

    Yes. It should be overturned.


    The ban serves no useful purpose that is not already served by NICS/background checks and the Class III license requirement to own full auto weapons.

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    Re: Should we overturn the 1986 automatic weapons ban?

    It should definitely be overturned. The only limitations that I support on the ownership of firearms in this country are....

    1. Proof you do not have a felony conviction, or a drug/alcohol conviction on your record
    2. Proof you have not been adjudicated mentally incompetent
    3. Proof you are an American Citizen over the age of 18
    4. Proof that you can safely store and handle the firearm/weapon in question

    If you can prove that you can safely store and handle an M1 Abrams MBT, I have no problem with someone owning one.

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    Re: Should we overturn the 1986 automatic weapons ban?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    It should definitely be overturned. The only limitations that I support on the ownership of firearms in this country are....

    1. Proof you do not have a felony conviction, or a drug/alcohol conviction on your record
    2. Proof you have not been adjudicated mentally incompetent
    3. Proof you are an American Citizen over the age of 18
    4. Proof that you can safely store and handle the firearm/weapon in question

    If you can prove that you can safely store and handle an M1 Abrams MBT, I have no problem with someone owning one.
    You think someone with a DUI or public intox conviction should be banned from gun ownership?

    Probably it should be a rite of passage to adulthood that every American receive an M1 with 1000 rounds of ammo on his/her 18th birthday. While maybe oppressively restrictive, I think probably not until 21 for RPGs.

    As long as we outlawed using those or any other firearms for any illegal activity, there shouldn't be any problems.
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    Re: Should we overturn the 1986 automatic weapons ban?

    The next time someone goes off the deep end and want's to take out fellow college students, that person should have the right to pull up with one of these bolted down in the back of his 4x4 dually:



    ^ I want one of those. Only for hunting purposes.
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    Re: Should we overturn the 1986 automatic weapons ban?

    Yeah, it should be overturned. Leave the same restrictions that are currently in place for purchasing ones that are grandfathered in, and let people buy new ones again.
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    Re: Should we overturn the 1986 automatic weapons ban?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    You think someone with a DUI or public intox conviction should be banned from gun ownership?
    In a single word.... YES. These people have proven that they cannot be trusted by the general public to follow the rules. Just like someone who has been convicted of marijuana possession.

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    Re: Should we overturn the 1986 automatic weapons ban?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    I researched this a little and was surprised to learn it wasn't President Clinton's 1994 assault weapons ban (expired in '04) that banned automatic weapons. It was a law from 1986 that's still in effect.
    You mean the one that "great conservative" Reagan signed into law?
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