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    Re: Should we overturn the 1986 automatic weapons ban?

    The Poll is incorrect The SECOND AMENDMENT GIVES US NOTHING-it RECOGNIZES A RIGHT we never gave away to the federal government



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    Re: Should we overturn the 1986 automatic weapons ban?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    The Poll is incorrect The SECOND AMENDMENT GIVES US NOTHING-it RECOGNIZES A RIGHT we never gave away to the federal government
    A right to what? I'm not sure they would see quite as you do. Very early on some regulation was allowed.

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    Re: Should we overturn the 1986 automatic weapons ban?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    A right to what? I'm not sure they would see quite as you do. Very early on some regulation was allowed.
    there was no federal regulation until FDR created a power out of the commerce clause.



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    Re: Should we overturn the 1986 automatic weapons ban?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    there was no federal regulation until FDR created a power out of the commerce clause.
    That would be at the federal level. In 1822 and 1842 you'll find two contradictory rulings. These were in response to regulations that started before those dates.

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    Re: Should we overturn the 1986 automatic weapons ban?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That would be at the federal level. In 1822 and 1842 you'll find two contradictory rulings. These were in response to regulations that started before those dates.
    the first real federal restriction was in 1934. it involved the disregard of the Tenth amendment.



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    Re: Should we overturn the 1986 automatic weapons ban?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the first real federal restriction was in 1934. it involved the disregard of the Tenth amendment.
    That's your reading of it to be sure. Now, read and respond to what I said.

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    Re: Should we overturn the 1986 automatic weapons ban?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That's your reading of it to be sure. Now, read and respond to what I said.
    Why should I respond to your assertion when you ignored the point of mine? I don't follow rules set down by people who don't obey what they try to impose on others. and again this appears to be another case of your passive-aggressive attacks on arguments that are in favor of restoring our constitutional rights

    the fact is, gun control as a federal power was not truly conjured up until 1934



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    Re: Should we overturn the 1986 automatic weapons ban?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Why should I respond to your assertion when you ignored the point of mine? I don't follow rules set down by people who don't obey what they try to impose on others. and again this appears to be another case of your passive-aggressive attacks on arguments that are in favor of restoring our constitutional rights

    the fact is, gun control as a federal power was not truly conjured up until 1934
    Did you read what I wrote? Read the first sentence. I said limitations and regulations were here since almost the beginning. I made no mention or limitations to just the federal government. When you did, I acknowledged the federal law but point to what I was speaking to. I acknowledged; you ignored. See the difference?
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    Re: Should we overturn the 1986 automatic weapons ban?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Did you read what I wrote? Read the first sentence. I said limitations and regulations were here since almost the beginning. I made no mention or limitations to just the federal government. When you did, I acknowledged the federal law but point to what I was speaking to. I acknowledged; you ignored. See the difference?
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    I wasn't talking about the states-in 1837 I believe Ga banned handguns and it was thrown out as unconstitutional



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    Re: Should we overturn the 1986 automatic weapons ban?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I wasn't talking about the states-in 1837 I believe Ga banned handguns and it was thrown out as unconstitutional
    That's one. These things have gone back and forth. See 1842 and 1875. Those went the other way. He point is, regulations have nearly always been here.

    Btw, I didn't limit it to federal, and you responded to it.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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