View Poll Results: Should it be illegal for employers to ask for Facebook passwords?

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  • This is already illegal, covered under existing anti-discrimination laws

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  • We need new legislation to make this illegal

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  • It's poor judgment on the part of the employers, but doesn't need to be illegal

    13 30.23%
  • It should be legal, so that employers can conduct a thorough background check

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    Re: Employers asking for Facebook passwords

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    As a society we have concluded that we are better off as a whole by putting some limits on a company's ability to indiscriminately hire and fire. If a business doesn't like those laws they are welcome to set up shop somewhere else. In short, what you're saying for business is what applies to society and it's labor laws, not the business. Nothing in the Constitution protects the right of a company to open it's doors or keep them open. In fact, if you look into the history of companies you'll find that our Founding Fathers were very leery of them and for good reason.
    That attitude has worked really well hasn't it? {{8.3% unemployed here}}
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    Re: Employers asking for Facebook passwords

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    I'm going to have to google this. No one other than friends and family has any business seeing my account.

    ....

    I thought of another thing that's scary. What if you're applying for a job and maybe you don't even have a FB account, but someone with your same name does. The prospective employer finds the other account and thinks it's you, and that person is a real jerk, a member of extremist groups, a drunk, a drug abuser, etc.
    That's something that happens already with those "background checks". I recently had an experience like that - and for a low-paying PT job no less. It seems Toys-R-Us uses some company to check all their applicants. Even with an uninterrupted employment record going back over 25 years with same employer, this background check came back that I had been in prison for a year in the early '00s and my application was rejected on that information. Same first/last name but guy in prison had no birthdate information attached and no middle initial. Since my first/last name has 12 entries in the metro phone book - and who knows how many others using initials only or some combination? I suspect this will continue to happen and just get worse as time goes by.


    BTW - I called the checking company but refused to their job for them. They wanted me to submit a written complaint with details, blah blah blah and I told them they were getting the only complaint they needed. I'm old enough I don't give a **** if their data is right or not. Let it get bad enough that it'll really count and I'll sue the bastards instead.
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    Re: Employers asking for Facebook passwords

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    That attitude has worked really well hasn't it? {{8.3% unemployed here}}
    It's been as low as 4% often in the past 20 years. If all you can see is the last 3 years - and you're using that to make your point - then it's no wonder you have the poor outlook you do.



    BTW - It's also those "owners" that created most of this mess. That's another fine example of business run amok. Business without regulation is like an engine without a governor - bound to blow up given enough time.
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    Re: Employers asking for Facebook passwords

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Serious View Post
    I have issue with the statement that is in bold:



    Facebook requires you to provide your real name

    According to the Term of Service :

    4. Registration and Account Security

    Facebook users provide their real names and information, and we need your help to keep it that way. Here are some commitments you make to us relating to registering and maintaining the security of your account:

    You will not provide any false personal information on Facebook, or create an account for anyone other than yourself without permission.
    She didn't say a person should provide false info. She stated that when you post under your real name which is what you are required to do, you should not have an expectation of privacy. I agree.
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    Re: Employers asking for Facebook passwords

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    It's been as low as 4% often in the past 20 years. If all you can see is the last 3 years - and you're using that to make your point - then it's no wonder you have the poor outlook you do.



    BTW - It's also those "owners" that created most of this mess. That's another fine example of business run amok. Business without regulation is like an engine without a governor - bound to blow up given enough time.

    I have no poor outlook sir. I just happen to believe that one person should not have rights over a business owner merely because they are a business owner.
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    Re: Employers asking for Facebook passwords

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    I have no poor outlook sir. I just happen to believe that one person should not have rights over a business owner merely because they are a business owner.
    They don't have rights over the business owner as a person but as a business. I'm sorry you can't see the distinction.
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    Re: Employers asking for Facebook passwords

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    That's something that happens already with those "background checks". I recently had an experience like that - and for a low-paying PT job no less. It seems Toys-R-Us uses some company to check all their applicants. Even with an uninterrupted employment record going back over 25 years with same employer, this background check came back that I had been in prison for a year in the early '00s and my application was rejected on that information. Same first/last name but guy in prison had no birthdate information attached and no middle initial. Since my first/last name has 12 entries in the metro phone book - and who knows how many others using initials only or some combination? I suspect this will continue to happen and just get worse as time goes by.


    BTW - I called the checking company but refused to their job for them. They wanted me to submit a written complaint with details, blah blah blah and I told them they were getting the only complaint they needed. I'm old enough I don't give a **** if their data is right or not. Let it get bad enough that it'll really count and I'll sue the bastards instead.
    Can you sue them for libel? They pretty much said you are a convicted criminal and damaged your reputation.

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    Re: Employers asking for Facebook passwords

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Can you sue them for libel? They pretty much said you are a convicted criminal and damaged your reputation.
    Probably. The question is Is it worth it? and the answer, for this job at least, was No. If it were a $60k job then it would probably be worth it. I suspect good employers don't use such poor background checks.
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    Re: Employers asking for Facebook passwords

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    #1 How many people are going to work at this place if a requirement of employment is sexual favors?
    In this economy? Probably a lot more than you might like to think. And you can't just blithely dismiss it as "they'll just choose not to work there," as though it's so easy for everyone to find a new job...especially if they've already invested a significant amount of time at their current job.

    #2 If a person is willing to give sexual favors to get a job who am I to tell them they shouldn't be afforded the opportunity merely because someone else is offended by such a thing?
    Umm I doubt that very many people view sucking dick to keep their job as an "opportunity" that's been "afforded" to them.
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    Re: Employers asking for Facebook passwords

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    They don't have rights over the business owner as a person but as a business. I'm sorry you can't see the distinction.
    If I was going to hire a person to clean my home and I told them I would only hire them to clean my home if they let me have their Facebook login and password, would you be okay with that?
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