View Poll Results: Should it be illegal for employers to ask for Facebook passwords?

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  • This is already illegal, covered under existing anti-discrimination laws

    11 25.58%
  • We need new legislation to make this illegal

    17 39.53%
  • It's poor judgment on the part of the employers, but doesn't need to be illegal

    13 30.23%
  • It should be legal, so that employers can conduct a thorough background check

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    Re: Employers asking for Facebook passwords

    I don't have a problem with a [potential] employer being able to see my Facebook page. Damned if I'm gonna allow them administrative abilities to it though.

    I would imagine you have to be pretty damn stupid to do something on the public side of your Facebook page to warrant not getting the job or losing it, like that guy who worked for the Philidelphia Eagles organization that went on his public Facebook page and trashed them/his job. You're begging to be fired when you do that.

    I don't get how some people are stupid enough to think there is such thing as real internet anonymity, and that you can e-communicate without repercussion at any time in any place.

    It's yet another example of people who think they have a right to anything and everything. You have no right to privacy on the internet. Period.

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    Re: Employers asking for Facebook passwords

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    I picked "It's poor judgment on the part of the employers, but doesn't need to be illegal", as that pretty much sums up my overall feelings, but... on this issue I would not protest at all if a law were passed making it illegal.
    After reading through this thread, and pondering the points made, I would like to change my vote to: "We need new legislation to make this illegal"

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    Re: Employers asking for Facebook passwords

    Facebook's TOS says to not share your password with anybody. If you refuse to share with an employer, that should be a sign to them that you take your obligations and commitments and loyalties seriously, and that you would protect them and their interests equally.

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    Re: Employers asking for Facebook passwords

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Facebook's TOS says to not share your password with anybody. If you refuse to share with an employer, that should be a sign to them that you take your obligations and commitments and loyalties seriously, and that you would protect them and their interests equally.

    Ok, back to earth.
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    Re: Employers asking for Facebook passwords

    I have issue with the statement that is in bold:

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I've already commented on this thread that, as much as I don't think we need anymore laws, I think it should be illegal to ask for someone's Facebook password in order to get hired...or to ask to view their page. It's nothing more than blackmail, in my opinion.

    Having said that, I want to comment on something else. When you post on Facebook under your real name, you should have absolutely no expectation of privacy. None. If you post something on Facebook, it's out there for "the duration," hell, eternity for all we know. Your BFF today? Maybe tomorrow notsomuch. You post something on your Facebook that would jeopardize your job or something you don't want certain people to know? Good luck with that.

    You're a fool.
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    According to the Term of Service :

    4. Registration and Account Security

    Facebook users provide their real names and information, and we need your help to keep it that way. Here are some commitments you make to us relating to registering and maintaining the security of your account:

    You will not provide any false personal information on Facebook, or create an account for anyone other than yourself without permission.
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    Re: Employers asking for Facebook passwords

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    No, but they can require YOUR PERMISSION as a condition of employment. Essentially the only punishment here is loss of employment (or not employing at all) A person has no RIGHT to be employed by a company.
    To what extent can a employer expect to take that? Can an employer ask for sexual favors? If the employer is not a minor should that be allowed? After all if the employee refuses that person has no right to be employed by a company.
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    Re: Employers asking for Facebook passwords

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    sure. for example, if you were employed to be a character in a reality TV show.
    In that situation I would argue that's it's why you're getting paid. It's not just a condition, it's the job itself - like a Hooter's waitress being in good physical shape. If there were a job for monitoring people on Facebook by interacting with them then I would say having a Facebook account with certain (job-specific) types of entries would be part of the job and, obviously, seeing the account would be justified; But only because that's a job qualification much like having a year of metal shop might be a qualification for being a tool maker's apprentice. But what Joe eats for breakfast or how often he goes to a bar or any other legal activities Joe may participate in while not at work has nothing to do with Joe being able to operate a lathe. School curriculum? Yes. Facebook account? No.

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    an employer does not have the right to force this, though they should have the right to make it a condition of employment.
    I'm sorry but I fail to see the distinction here. What rights/force does an employer have over you if you quit - other than, maybe, non-disclosure or something similar? I can't really see how non-disclosure can equate to Facebook.
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    Re: Employers asking for Facebook passwords

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    Which is my problem with it. I don't care if they see the crap I post because it's mostly nonsense. The fact that it gives them access to my friends, that's a hell no. I'm applying for a low level job I'm probably going to hate, leave after a couple months, and don't even need anyway, not a career in Homeland Security, or the CIA.
    Yeah... a close family member has high government security clearance and gets an FBI back ground check every year... I can see that for him but he doesn't do anything like face book online and when I asked he said that nobody at his level does either. The entire thing is an invasion of OTHER PEOPLE's privacy. I have an account that I have logged into 4 times in the last year. All I put up was that I surf and like Metallica pretty much. Like you said, who cares about that? If you use the site as a window into your soul then I think you have bigger things to worry about than your boss finding out you innermost thoughts posted out to a billion strangers.
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    Re: Employers asking for Facebook passwords

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    It boils down to a person hiring a person. A business has rights associated with the owner. An owner has to have the right to fire people. The owner grants a person the privilege of allowing them on his property to perform a service for him. He can (or should be able) at anytime revoke the privilege to come on his property. In the current situation the owner stated he will grant the employee the privilege of employment if the employee grant him the privilege of a looksey into the facebook account.
    As a society we have concluded that we are better off as a whole by putting some limits on a company's ability to indiscriminately hire and fire. If a business doesn't like those laws they are welcome to set up shop somewhere else. In short, what you're saying for business is what applies to society and it's labor laws, not the business. Nothing in the Constitution protects the right of a company to open it's doors or keep them open. In fact, if you look into the history of companies you'll find that our Founding Fathers were very leery of them and for good reason.
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    Re: Employers asking for Facebook passwords

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Serious View Post
    To what extent can a employer expect to take that? Can an employer ask for sexual favors? If the employer is not a minor should that be allowed? After all if the employee refuses that person has no right to be employed by a company.
    I am sure the employer would have a law suit on his hands if he tried that. That is how the legal system is currently. Me personally, I have no problem with an employer asking for (to use your example) sexual favors (or facebook passwords).
    #1 How many people are going to work at this place if a requirement of employment is sexual favors?
    #2 If a person is willing to give sexual favors to get a job who am I to tell them they shouldn't be afforded the opportunity merely because someone else is offended by such a thing?
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