View Poll Results: Should it be illegal for employers to ask for Facebook passwords?

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  • This is already illegal, covered under existing anti-discrimination laws

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  • It's poor judgment on the part of the employers, but doesn't need to be illegal

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    Re: Employers asking for Facebook passwords

    Quote Originally Posted by lunchbox View Post
    I completely agree with you. Facebook is not just another place to socialize, it's a window to the soul -- like a journal. The person who thought up this little piece of privacy invasion, should be shot.
    No offense but that is kinda sad...
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    Re: Employers asking for Facebook passwords

    Personally I don't get why these employers want people's passwords to begin with. It's not like Facebook users don't already throw everything out there on their profile page to begin with.
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

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    Re: Employers asking for Facebook passwords

    I do not have a FB account and had never heard of any employer with such a policy. I do know companies that read what is written or imaged for public viewing on the internet ...yet requiring a person to relinquish a PW is over the top and an unconstitutional invasion of privacy.

    I could not work for a company with such a policy. How would that differ from an employer asking to ransack an employee's cupboards and drawers of their home or look in their purse or read their personal correspondence.

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    Re: Employers asking for Facebook passwords

    Okay, now I'm mad. I just did a google search for my FB page and found it even though I thought I had set my privacy to have my page not show up. It wasn't possible to read any of my wall posts or look through my photos while not logged in, but you could see my interests, political organizations, what tv shows I like, etc., all things that I feel are none of the business of a potential employer. If I need to apply for a job, I'll just deactivate my account. I can always reactivate it after I have a job.

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    Re: Employers asking for Facebook passwords

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    Okay, now I'm mad. I just did a google search for my FB page and found it even though I thought I had set my privacy to have my page not show up. It wasn't possible to read any of my wall posts or look through my photos while not logged in, but you could see my interests, political organizations, what tv shows I like, etc., all things that I feel are none of the business of a potential employer. If I need to apply for a job, I'll just deactivate my account. I can always reactivate it after I have a job.
    You're doing something wrong. There are settings that make your profile private and inaccessible to anyone who's not a friend.
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    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: Employers asking for Facebook passwords

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    You're doing something wrong. There are settings that make your profile private and inaccessible to anyone who's not a friend.
    I'm going to have to google this. No one other than friends and family has any business seeing my account.

    ....

    I thought of another thing that's scary. What if you're applying for a job and maybe you don't even have a FB account, but someone with your same name does. The prospective employer finds the other account and thinks it's you, and that person is a real jerk, a member of extremist groups, a drunk, a drug abuser, etc.

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    Re: Employers asking for Facebook passwords

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Hell, this should be illegal for no other reason than they will find out extremely personal information about other people, friends and family. The idea is ridiculous.
    Which is my problem with it. I don't care if they see the crap I post because it's mostly nonsense. The fact that it gives them access to my friends, that's a hell no. I'm applying for a low level job I'm probably going to hate, leave after a couple months, and don't even need anyway, not a career in Homeland Security, or the CIA.
    I love the NSA. It's like having a secret fan-base you will never see, but they're there, watching everything you write and it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside knowing that I may be some person's only form of unconstitutional entertainment one night.

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    Re: Employers asking for Facebook passwords

    What's frightening to me is not so much that some agents of employers have bought into this entitlement attitude where they've lost sight of the distinction between being ABLE to get away with massive unwarranted invasion of privacy and potential discrimination (which they frequently are)...vs. being ethically justified in doing so (which they are not).

    Really, what's needed is a pitched, committed societal battle to defend a standard by which ALL non-performance-related issues are effectively barred from being used as a basis for discrimination in hiring and promotion. I'm not especially picky about how it might happen, even though I'd prefer it be the result of a widespread grassroots effort...but one way or another, employers need to rediscover some humility and even some good old-fashioned healthy fear of well-informed active worker solidarity.
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    Re: Employers asking for Facebook passwords

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    I happen to think it's stupid to bear ones soul for all to see on the internet. You're just going to get trolled, and be called a "fag" in most cases. The internet is unrelenting in its judgment.
    I agree. But it's still wrong for employers to demand Facebook passwords.

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    Re: Employers asking for Facebook passwords

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    As some of you may have heard, some employers are starting to ask their employees or potential employees for their Facebook passwords, in order to "do a background check" on them. Some have implemented this practice as a condition for employment, a condition for promotion, or even as a condition to not be fired. Obviously this is a huge invasion of privacy, but it also seems to walk a very fine line when it comes to existing anti-discrimination laws. If a potential employer browsed someone's Facebook, they could find out a lot more than their drinking habits...they could reasonably be expected to find out the person's religion, race, sexual orientation, whether they are expecting a child, what their political views on unions are, etc.

    Is this really a road that we should go down? Do we need legislation preventing this? What happens if an employer views someone's Facebook, sees that they're a member of a group typically associated with a certain race (e.g. NAACP or ADL or La Raza), and then decides not to hire them? Who knows if that was the actual reason they weren't hired, but I think the person could reasonably make the claim that they were discriminated against.

    And here is a great resignation letter from a man who had to ask potential employees for their Facebook passwords before he could hire them: I hereby resign - raganwald's posterous
    I have no experience with this issue. No employer has ever asked to see or log into my Facebook. If asked, I would decline, and sue.

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