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    Will a finding of the HC mandate as unconstitutional hurt Obama's re-election?

    Will a finding of the HC mandate as unconstitutional hurt Obama's relection?

    I think this is a valid question. One that even experts in the political field may ask themselves. Yeah I'm sure that Republicans hope that it does and Democrats hope that it won't. But in all honesty will it?
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    Re: Will a finding of the HC mandate as unconstitutional hurt Obama's re-election?

    Will a finding of the HC mandate as unconstitutional hurt Obama's relection?
    I don't think it will. It will give him an issue with good timing to run with. I think the Republican solution will have to be explained in more detail since it will be understood that the Republicans don't want the Romney/Obama solution. If SCOTUS allows it to pass in full then the Republicans can 'explain' how bad it's going to be and that will be harder for Obama to run against.
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    Re: Will a finding of the HC mandate as unconstitutional hurt Obama's re-election?

    The entire 4 years in office should be something that would hurt his re-election chances. But then enter the GOP of 2012.... Can't see how this is going to do much since the GOP cannot mount serious competition on one of the most failed administrations in the history of the U.S.

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    Re: Will a finding of the HC mandate as unconstitutional hurt Obama's re-election?

    If, big IF, the mandate is found unConstitutional, Republicans will be expected to have a solution to the havoc that will cause. They don't have one. If they did, it'd be out there.
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    Re: Will a finding of the HC mandate as unconstitutional hurt Obama's re-election?

    It depends. My gut says no, but anything could happen.
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    Absolutely it will hurt Obamas reelection chances. To quote Biden, "This is a BFD" and so will it be if it's found unconstitutional. Obama will be snake bit, it will be a political hay maker as this law was his crown jewel. Couple that with Obamas supposed Harvard Constitutional Professor pedigree and it's devastating. Outside of the pure politics it will also put states and employers into flux as they have billions of dollars already spent on a law that has been either defunded or invalidated. Now Congress has to quickly close the gap temporarily while gearing up to have the entire fight all over again next session regardless who is President. I certainly find entertaining the Obi-One Kenobi spin that claims striking Obamacare will only make it stronger for Obama. They have no idea the depth of darkness Congress has or are purposely ignoring in an attempt to control the narrative.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Will a finding of the HC mandate as unconstitutional hurt Obama's re-election?

    yes, it will hurt his chances of reelection ( how much it will hurt is up in the air)

    having the crown jewel of your administrations policymaking struck down by the supreme court( while you maintain to be a constitutional scholar) is not good.

    can Obama spin his way out of most of the negative aspects of having it killed?.. sure, I think he is sufficiently skilled in campaign politics to make a viable attempt to do so.


    and no, the GOP will have no expectation to come up with an alternative... simple " we'll have an open debate on the issue and determine the proper, and constitutional, way to go" rhetoric will cover them on that front ( an alternative would be better ,though)
    and they do have alternatives... to say they do not is false.

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    Re: Will a finding of the HC mandate as unconstitutional hurt Obama's re-election?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Absolutely it will hurt Obamas reelection chances. To quote Biden, "This is a BFD" and so will it be if it's found unconstitutional. Obama will be snake bit, it will be a political hay maker as this law was his crown jewel. Couple that with Obamas supposed Harvard Constitutional Professor pedigree and it's devastating. Outside of the pure politics it will also put states and employers into flux as they have billions of dollars already spent on a law that has been either defunded or invalidated. Now Congress has to quickly close the gap temporarily while gearing up to have the entire fight all over again next session regardless who is President. I certainly find entertaining the Obi-One Kenobi spin that claims striking Obamacare will only make it stronger for Obama. They have no idea the depth of darkness Congress has or are purposely ignoring in an attempt to control the narrative.
    The voters that matter will not care about "... put states and employers into flux as they have billions of dollars already spent on a law that has been either defunded or invalidated." And it is a BFD, both ways though. And by the time SCOTUS comes out w/ its decision Congress won't matter in influencing the election.

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    Re: Will a finding of the HC mandate as unconstitutional hurt Obama's re-election?

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    They do have alternatives... to say they do not is false.
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    Re: Will a finding of the HC mandate as unconstitutional hurt Obama's re-election?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Will a finding of the HC mandate as unconstitutional hurt Obama's relection?

    I think this is a valid question. One that even experts in the political field may ask themselves. Yeah I'm sure that Republicans hope that it does and Democrats hope that it won't. But in all honesty will it?

    I think it is will not hurt Obama at all. Obama with the help of other liberal democrats did what many of their voters wanted them to do.
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