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    Re: Will a finding of the HC mandate as unconstitutional hurt Obama's re-election?

    it will definately hurt him,especially if the republicans hammer that message into every debate and ad,but looking now at the republican batch this year hurting obama isnt going to be enough to win,they would need obama to make some major screwups between now and election time to hurt obama enough to lose,whereas obama could just walk up on stage and pull out an etch n sketch and romney really cant defend against it
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    Re: Will a finding of the HC mandate as unconstitutional hurt Obama's re-election?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    the better question is... why don't you know about the GOP "solutions" already?... they are out there for public consumption
    I listen to the Republicans but they spend most of their time berating the Obama plan and when they talk about their plan they use these words: easier, promotes, helps, tax credit, flexibility, rewards, encourages, incentives, etc. without any mechanisms given except that the government will not be doing it, private companies will start doing it if we let them. Just like we are doing now.
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    Re: Will a finding of the HC mandate as unconstitutional hurt Obama's re-election?

    No. It wont hurt cuz Obama already has this in the bag. Just look at the Republican field..


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    Re: Will a finding of the HC mandate as unconstitutional hurt Obama's re-election?

    I don't think it's easy to predict how it would affect the election. If it's overturned (in whole or in part), it's possible that Democrats would be demoralized and be less likely to show up to vote for Obama. On the other hand, it would give Obama the opportunity to (plausibly) make the point over and over again that Republican lawyers succeeded in taking health insurance away from little kids, kicking sick people off the insurance rolls, bringing back preexisting conditions, taking subsidies away from those who can't afford health insurance, etc. If he can pull that off it might energize his base and drive independents toward him.

    One thing I don't expect is for the ruling to have much effect on Republican turnout, no matter which way it goes. There are two reasons for this: 1) Mitt Romney, the architect of Obamacare, will be at the top of their ticket; and 2) Despite the frenzy into which they've whipped themselves, Republican opposition is driven more by short-term partisan posturing than it is by any serious ideological problems with the Affordable Care Act.
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    Re: Will a finding of the HC mandate as unconstitutional hurt Obama's re-election?

    Wait...Romney is the "architect of Obamacare"? He wasn't even in Congress or the Senate. He wrote absolutely nothing in that bill.
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    Re: Will a finding of the HC mandate as unconstitutional hurt Obama's re-election?

    Not at all. In fact, it would probably give him a slight bump among the loonies of the Left when he comes out and says... "See, Republicans want to deprive you of the right to medical care, to force you to pay for your own bills, and to KILL YOU!!!"

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    Re: Will a finding of the HC mandate as unconstitutional hurt Obama's re-election?

    I honestly think it's going to atleast hurt him a bit. I mean then Romney can play the "you went against the American people's will" card and also the "Obama likes to pass unconstitutional law" card.
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    Re: Will a finding of the HC mandate as unconstitutional hurt Obama's re-election?

    I do not believe it will hurt his re-election chances, if only because his opposition will be DOA regardless anything other issues.

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    Re: Will a finding of the HC mandate as unconstitutional hurt Obama's re-election?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Name one....
    Equalize the tax treatment between employers and individuals in the health insurance market.


    gosh, that was easy .




    Bluntly, if the Supremes strike down the Mandate, it seems to give credence to Romney's argument that mandates may be acceptable, but only at the State level. Romney's critique of Obamacare was always Constitutional in nature, and so the SCOTUS decision would seem to dovetail with and reinforce him. In addition, a SCOTUS decision striking the mandate puts Obama in a no-win situation. His base will expect him to excoriate the Court, however, doing so would require that he double down on a deeply unpopular position against an institution that most Americans generally respect. He either get's to deal with a disenheartened base which feels itself betrayed, or he get's to tell the 60-70% of Americans who think the mandate is unconstitutional that they and the Supreme Court can go get stuffed.

    There is no plausible way that keeping Obamacare in the news (no matter how the ruling comes out) net helps him in November 2012.
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    Re: Will a finding of the HC mandate as unconstitutional hurt Obama's re-election?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Wait...Romney is the "architect of Obamacare"? He wasn't even in Congress or the Senate. He wrote absolutely nothing in that bill.
    Except that the whole idea of the individual mandate is what Romney care in Mass. was based on.

    Used to be, that was the Republican idea to reform health care. As late as 2005, Gingrich thought it was a good one. What happened?

    To answer the question, of course it hurts. Republicans waited to bring the suit until it would come to a head during the election, banking on the fact that the SC striking it down would be a death blow to Democrats.
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