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    Re: Will a finding of the HC mandate as unconstitutional hurt Obama's re-election?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    The voters that matter will not care about "... put states and employers into flux as they have billions of dollars already spent on a law that has been either defunded or invalidated." And it is a BFD, both ways though.
    No doubt it's a BFD either way..... either we cross the Rubicon and the United States is no longer the bastion of independence and freedom any longer, or not IMO.

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    And by the time SCOTUS comes out w/ its decision Congress won't matter in influencing the election.]
    You're kidding right? The decision comes out in June... that's 5 months worth of hay for Republicans to make, and they will make it.
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    Re: Will a finding of the HC mandate as unconstitutional hurt Obama's re-election?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I think it is will not hurt Obama at all. Obama with the help of other liberal democrats did what many of their voters wanted them to do.
    It won't hurt Democrats voting for Obama no... of course not. Will it hurt with independents? Yes I think so... somewhat. Will it hurt with Republicans who hate Romney who most likely will be the RNC candidate for 2012? No, it will actually provide some small light at the end of the tunnel that Obama may actually be beaten by Mr. Mitt Stiff Neck.
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    Re: Will a finding of the HC mandate as unconstitutional hurt Obama's re-election?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    If, big IF, the mandate is found unConstitutional, Republicans will be expected to have a solution to the havoc that will cause.
    Why would it cause "havoc"? It's not in effect yet.
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    Re: Will a finding of the HC mandate as unconstitutional hurt Obama's re-election?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Why would it cause "havoc"? It's not in effect yet.
    Because of the other provision in Obamacare that says one cannot be turned down for pre-existing conditions. That means nobody has to get insurance until they get sick. That's not what insurance is about...there's no way a program could be solvent without charging astronomical premiums to those who do pay (well beyond what their risk is) to compensate for that.
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    Re: Will a finding of the HC mandate as unconstitutional hurt Obama's re-election?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    You're kidding right? The decision comes out in June... that's 5 months worth of hay for Republicans to make, and they will make it.
    Nope. If the decision is the mandate is out then the republicans were correct, it was unconstitutional. But now what is your solution Republicans?
    I guess we'll see.

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    Re: Will a finding of the HC mandate as unconstitutional hurt Obama's re-election?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Because of the other provision in Obamacare that says one cannot be turned down for pre-existing conditions. That means nobody has to get insurance until they get sick. That's not what insurance is about...there's no way a program could be solvent without charging astronomical premiums to those who do pay (well beyond what their risk is) to compensate for that.
    But none of that has taken effect. There needn't be any havoc.

    Plus, there's a fair-to-middling suggestion that the entire law may be struck down, not just the mandate.
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    Re: Will a finding of the HC mandate as unconstitutional hurt Obama's re-election?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    Nope. If the decision is the mandate is out then the republicans were correct, it was unconstitutional. But now what is your solution Republicans?
    I guess we'll see.
    My solution is irrelevant. Romney's solution is to repeal Obama Care fully. If the SCOTUS does that for him, it's up to him to provide an alternative and lets face it, there are a lot of alternatives some of which have been proposed since ObamaCare was first put out.

    5 months of pounding on Barack "The Constitutional Scholar from Harvard" Obama, on his unconstitutional crown jewel law. Keep telling yourself it's no loss... I love the "it will only make him stronger" narrative.
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    Re: Will a finding of the HC mandate as unconstitutional hurt Obama's re-election?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    Nope. If the decision is the mandate is out then the republicans were correct, it was unconstitutional. But now what is your solution Republicans?
    I guess we'll see.

    the better question is... why don't you know about the GOP "solutions" already?... they are out there for public consumption

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    Re: Will a finding of the HC mandate as unconstitutional hurt Obama's re-election?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Name one....
    No one will answer so let me take a crack at it.

    I am not quite sure the specifics, here is a generic one.

    Get sick, die, and make sure that they paid to cover their expenses after death, wouldn't want to pay for that either.

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    Re: Will a finding of the HC mandate as unconstitutional hurt Obama's re-election?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Will a finding of the HC mandate as unconstitutional hurt Obama's relection?

    I think this is a valid question. One that even experts in the political field may ask themselves. Yeah I'm sure that Republicans hope that it does and Democrats hope that it won't. But in all honesty will it?
    So much of the answer is in stuff that is unpredicatable. How much will it motivate the base? How will it affect swing voters? How will it effect conservatives? Will it even happen? Will the rest of the law be thrown out? I suspect, maybe, that if just the mandate is thrown out it would maybe be a small negative for obama. If the whole thing is thrown out, a small positive for obama. I do not think it will have a dramatic effect on the election.
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