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    How will SCOTUS rule on the Individual Mandate?

    How will SCOTUS rule on the Individual Mandate?

    Not what you interpret the legality/Constitutionality to be.
    Not how you think they should rule.
    Not how you want them to rule.

    How do you think they actually WILL rule?

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    Re: How will SCOTUS rule on the Individual Mandate?

    All the conservative leaning judges will rule that its unconstitutional to force Americans to buy health insurance and all the liberal leaning judges will rule its constitutional to force Americans to buy health insurance.
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    Re: How will SCOTUS rule on the Individual Mandate?

    5 to 4 ruling. It will die.
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    Re: How will SCOTUS rule on the Individual Mandate?

    individual mandate will die.

    the rest of it shall live.

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    Re: How will SCOTUS rule on the Individual Mandate?

    It will be upheld.
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    Re: How will SCOTUS rule on the Individual Mandate?

    Hard to believe it could be upheld at this point, not only is it comprehensive federal coercion at a unprecedented level, the legal argument in favor of the mandate was piss poor.

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    Re: How will SCOTUS rule on the Individual Mandate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    Hard to believe it could be upheld at this point, not only is it comprehensive federal coercion at a unprecedented level, the legal argument in favor of the mandate was piss poor.
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    Re: How will SCOTUS rule on the Individual Mandate?

    I voted 50/50. I'm conflicted on which way I want it to go. Personally I wouldn't mind the mandate. However, if we don't or can't mandate that people get medical insurance, we'll have to keep the 'self' insured out of our ER's unless they arrive with money. Not cash, but some money deposited somewhere that can be debited by the care giver. I've posted before about a Tea Party family we chatted with at a demonstration that was in debt more than $60,000 to a hospital we could see from the federal building.

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    Re: How will SCOTUS rule on the Individual Mandate?

    I'd like to believe that it will survive, but it seems unlikely. However, the probability of the individual mandate being struck down is hovering around 60-65% on InTrade, so I am hopeful that I might be wrong.

    Ultimately, I don't think that the most telling sign was the barrage of hostile questions that Kennedy/Roberts directed toward the solicitor-general; that's par for the course in a Supreme Court argument and doesn't necessarily have any bearing on their ultimate ruling. I don't even think the most telling sign was the hemming and hawing that Roberts and Kennedy were doing (who knows if it was just to appear like they were carefully weighing the options before striking it down, or if they legitimately had doubts). I think the most telling sign was the fact that the Court appeared to be giving serious consideration to striking down the entire law, and that they even agreed to hear the truly absurd legal argument against the Medicaid provisions. I don't think that they'll actually strike down the entire law or the Medicaid provisions (God help us if they do), but by seriously entertaining these arguments, the conservative justices opened the Overton Window a bit wider. I think this makes it more likely that they'll strike down the individual mandate.
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    Re: How will SCOTUS rule on the Individual Mandate?

    I want to believe that it is about the "law" and that it will be upheld, but based on prior behavior, I believe the SCOTUS will vote their party affiliation and it will be ruled unconstitutional.



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