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Thread: Florida Law on use of deadly force [W:390]

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    re: Florida Law on use of deadly force [W:390]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I don't buy into that garbage. and you can pretty much pretend that there should be no criminal punishment if you believe that crap. but I will put it to you this way

    If I am sitting in my yard say playing frisbee with my son and some dog comes running up and bite my son

    here is what is going to happen

    1) I am going to kill the dog as fast as possible

    2) then I will find out where the dog came from

    a) if someone sent the dog to attack, then I kill him or cause him to be arrested depending what else goes on

    b) if the guy had tortured the dog and made it vicious then I will sue him after he goes to trial for cruelty to animals.

    now in either case it might not be the "dog's" fault but it still needs killing.
    So ignore reason. If you, TurtleDude, on a test are given a mathematical question. But say you studied ALL NIGHT before the test and just can't remember. Is that your fault?
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
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    re: Florida Law on use of deadly force [W:390]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    So ignore reason. If you, TurtleDude, on a test are given a mathematical question. But say you studied ALL NIGHT before the test and just can't remember. Is that your fault?
    self defense seems to be something beyond your comprehension. Individuals and society both have a right to self defense. no matter what motivates a pathogen

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    re: Florida Law on use of deadly force [W:390]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    As a police officer, yes if the officer feels endangered (IE Sees a gun or sees him reaching for a weapon). A police officer would arrest if he just saw rape. I honestly don't think you are okay with civilians making law enforcement decisions Goshin. I think civilians should be able to detain (in non-violent acts, which rape is NOT violent unless the rapist takes it to another level).



    Rape is a violent crime.

    In most jurisdictions you can shoot (as a cop, or as a private citizen) in order to prevent a violent felony from occurring in your presense.

    You really ought to study up on this stuff before taking an entrenched position.

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    re: Florida Law on use of deadly force [W:390]

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post


    Rape is a violent crime.

    In most jurisdictions you can shoot (as a cop, or as a private citizen) in order to prevent a violent felony from occurring in your presense.

    You really ought to study up on this stuff before taking an entrenched position.
    I wonder if he will claim a rapist cannot help himself since the little head has taken control of the big one?

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    re: Florida Law on use of deadly force [W:390]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    rape is NOT violent unless the rapist takes it to another level.
    GTFOH. I'm pretty sure if you were raped, you'd think it was violent.

    Get a clue, dude.

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    re: Florida Law on use of deadly force [W:390]

    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    GTFOH. I'm pretty sure if you were raped, you'd think it was violent.

    Get a clue, dude.
    well you know what Coach Bob Knight once said

    if rape in inevitable you might as well lie back and enjoy it

    i guess Jryan is saying if the rapist is not acting out of free will its not only not a crime but uncontrollable love?

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    re: Florida Law on use of deadly force [W:390]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    well you know what Coach Bob Knight once said

    if rape in inevitable you might as well lie back and enjoy it

    i guess Jryan is saying if the rapist is not acting out of free will its not only not a crime but uncontrollable love?
    I don't like rape being minimized.

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    re: Florida Law on use of deadly force [W:390]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    (in non-violent acts, which rape is NOT violent unless the rapist takes it to another level).
    yea that's just bizarre.
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    re: Florida Law on use of deadly force [W:390]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    well you know what Coach Bob Knight once said

    if rape in inevitable you might as well lie back and enjoy it

    i guess Jryan is saying if the rapist is not acting out of free will its not only not a crime but uncontrollable love?
    Surely, this is satire of some sick sort or other.
    Rape is not love. It is done as an assault.
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    re: Florida Law on use of deadly force [W:390]

    As a Resident of the State of Florida for my ENTIRE life, a Gun Owner, A Concealed Weapon Permit Owner, and as a Citizen of the United States I 100% agree with the Florida law. The entire trayvon thing going on...was CLEARLY a violation of Florida law. There is a duty to retreat when that is an option, and standing your ground is only allowed when you cannot retreat (as in into your vehicle, your home). What happened to Trayvon was a disgrace because the man pursued Trayvon. Not to mention Zimmerman should not be allowed to have a gun because of his criminal record.

    Anyway. The Florida law is GREAT.
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