View Poll Results: Should the Government have the power to take this life?

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    Re: Should the Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    OscarB63 made the following comment in jest, and it got me wondering.
    Kill Zimmermam NOW or there will be riots.
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    Question.
    If a person's death would prevent riots that would result in many more deaths and property damage; Should the Government have the power to take this life?
    Yes, only if loss of life is imminent.
    No.
    Yes, to prevent both property damage and loss of life.
    No. The Government should kill the rioters.



    Why?
    Why not?
    What OUR government should be doing is excaping from the kill-kill-kill mania in which we are locked into and institute some real gun laws, keeping guns from the hands of me, the Zimmermans, and the Martins in our society.
    The NRA be damned.

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    Re: Should the Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    That right is "peaceably to assemble". Not to riot and take life.
    We have non lethal means of suppression. How often do we have riots that result in a multitude of deaths? Further even if we did have a problem with fatal rioting, how do you know in advance that there will be deaths, and how do you know who the parties to execute would be in advance to prevent this?

    Your draconian preventative measures would have the opposite result and fuel more violent riots, there would be more deaths as a result.
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    Re: Should the Government

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    What OUR government should be doing is excaping from the kill-kill-kill mania in which we are locked into and institute some real gun laws, keeping guns from the hands of me, the Zimmermans, and the Martins in our society.
    The NRA be damned.
    I think that is a horrible position.
    The right to bare arms allows the individual to protect their self from such government action I speak of.
    And you want to take that away?
    Last edited by Excon; 03-29-12 at 05:02 PM.

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    Re: Should the Government

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    We have non lethal means of suppression. How often do we have riots that result in a multitude of deaths? Further even if we did have a problem with fatal rioting, how do you know in advance that there will be deaths, and how do you know who the parties to execute would be in advance to prevent this?
    They vowed to kill if they didn't get this person.
    Me personally would wait until they did.

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    Re: Should the Government

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    i think the the members in the media who blew this all out of proportion knowing it would cause riots should be sent to prison.

    but no man deserves punishment without fair trial,what are we in 1671 where we accuse someone then burn them alive?????
    Apparently, yes, "1671".

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    Re: Should the Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    They vowed to kill if they didn't get this person.
    Me personally would wait until they did.
    Well then they are subject to possible charges stemming from issuing death threats, until they actually kill there is no way to now if they would actually go through with it.

    This is tyrannical and goes against our freedoms. We cannot go down this road and start issuing punishments (especially death sentences without even a whiff of due process) for potential crimes. It is absolutely tyrannical and is anathema to what our nation is founded upon.
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    Re: Should the Government

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    What OUR government should be doing is excaping from the kill-kill-kill mania in which we are locked into and institute some real gun laws, keeping guns from the hands of me, the Zimmermans, and the Martins in our society.
    The NRA be damned.
    So what, do you expect criminals to comply with anti-gun laws? It doesn't work in Great Britain! BTW! The government has no right to take away our guns!!!
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    Re: Should the Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    maybe those who riot want a real justice rather than a life and they try to attract attention of people by means of such bluff
    Murdering innocent people and destroying and steal property that is not yours is akin to wanting real justice? That makes as much sense as someone beating the **** out of their spouse and saying its to speak out against spousal abuse. Or that someone is speeding and speaking out against using adequate suntan lotion. The whole Rodney King riots in LA didn't have dick to with injustices, it was the rat scum of society using what ever excuse they wanted to justify stealing property, hurting innocent people and destroying property.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Should the Government

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Murdering innocent people and destroying and steal property that is not yours is akin to wanting real justice? That makes as much sense as someone beating the **** out of their spouse and saying its to speak out against spousal abuse. Or that someone is speeding and speaking out against using adequate suntan lotion. The whole Rodney King riots in LA didn't have dick to with injustices, it was the rat scum of society using what ever excuse they wanted to justify stealing property, hurting innocent people and destroying property.
    but in this case , i believe that all they want is not a life but a true justice system.

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    Re: Should the Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    but in this case , i believe that all they want is not a life but a true justice system.
    Sure they want a "true justice system" just like the rat scum of society in LA wanted as they were looting and burning businesses, assaulting innocent people, and vandalizing property. People who do that sort of stuff do not want a "true justice" system. Its just nothing more than an excuse to cause harm to innocent people.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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