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The new definition of "Racist".

What do you think of the new definition?

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Mickey Shane said:
The problem with racism is it's built upon the word race. All of the races that I've been to have produced a winner. No such luck here. I'd like to find out who the idiot was that determined that a word used for speed competition should also be used to describe groups of homo-sapiens (Latin for wise man).

He was probably a racist.

Welcome back Oscar.
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This is a homograph, two different words with the same spelling and pronunciation, as in "The second one hit one second later." The origins of these two words are uncertain, but I think race as ethnicity comes from the Latin meaning "root" and is related to radical and radish. Race meaning contest may come from a word meaning speed, related to rapid and rather (more quickly, more willingly).
 
Blackdog said:
Yea ignore the rest, got ya! :2wave:

No the article says nothing about racism being the cause or being less qualified. You have been wrong so many times at this point why don't you just shut it and try and learn something. It is simple if you would actually read the article before showing your ignorance of the subject matter yet again...

This does not appear to be due to deliberate discrimination, but rather as a natural result of the personal interests of the scholarship sponsors. Scholarship sponsors tend to establish scholarships that select for characteristics, activities and talents of interest to them. These factors, in turn, tend to resonate with students of the same racial background as the sponsor. For example, African-American students are much less likely to participate in equestrian sports (horseback riding, polo, rodeo), water sports (scuba diving, sailing, surfing, swimming, crew, water polo) and winter sports (ice hockey, skiing, snowboarding, figure skating) than Caucasian students.

Has nothing to do with racism.
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Stil nothing to show there are not opportinities for minorities who choose to avail themselves of them
 
PrometheusBound said:
That slogan really means, "It's my way or the highway." What person with any pride would submit to that claim?
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no, it means the website is private property, and the owner can censor anything they like.

its called property rights, and its one of the foundations of our Republic.
 
New definition of racism:

Racist = not liberal
 
American said:
New definition of racism:

Racist = not liberal
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Racist = anyone who says anything negative about a person of color, no matter how trivial or true the statement may be, without loudly and incessantly blaming someone other than the person of color for the shortcoming.

What I find funny are those few people who will actually admit that blacks can be racists towards whites will invariably say that such racism is justified due to the actions of some whites that died over 100 years ago.
 
OscarB63 said:
Racist = anyone who says anything negative about a person of color, no matter how trivial or true the statement may be, without loudly and incessantly blaming someone other than the person of color for the shortcoming......
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this is a pathetic strawman frequently used by folks seeking to whitewash & disregard their own racist comments.
 
Blackdog said:
Well before we can define what a racist is, we need to know or define racism...

1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

Examples:

1. White people are better because we are white.
2. Nazi Germany and the treatment of Jews.
3. White or Black nationalists who believe they have the right to segregate from everyone but their own race.

So it is pretty simple.

The problem is far to many see bigotry or insensitivity as racism, and I think it is just thinned skinned and stupid.
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Are you saying that believing people have the right to segregate from everyone but their own race is racist?
 
Thunder said:
this is a pathetic strawman frequently used by folks seeking to whitewash & disregard their own racist comments.
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Gotcha, you think it's racist to speak the truth. Thanks for clearing that up. :thumbs:
 
Kal'Stang said:
Let me know what you think about this new definition for "racist". Mind you, please keep in mind today's social and political climate.

Racist:

1: Anyone that says or does anything even remotely or subjectively negative towards someone that is not of their race.

2: A belief that your race is superior to that of another race.
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Racism doesn't necessarily mean that you believe your race is superior to another race; someone could honestly believe that all races are equal and should be treated equally...and still be a racist. There are many different degrees of racism and different types of racism; people aren't always even aware of their own racism. Not all racists are of the KKK / Neo-Nazi variety. For example:

- White cops who are more likely to pull over black drivers due to their subconscious prejudices are racists.
- Black cops who are more likely to pull over black drivers due to their subconscious prejudices are racists.
- Hillbillies who insist on flying the Confederate flag to show their "southern pride" or as a "symbol of their heritage" are most likely racists.
- People who constantly complain that they can't get ahead due to affirmative action and/or immigration are most likely racists.
- People who feel more threatened when they see a black man walking down the street than when they see a white man walking down the street are racists.
- People who are less likely to support social programs which they subconsciously associate with minorities, as opposed to other spending priorities, are most likely racists.
- People who seriously believe that white people have the worse end of discrimination in our political system are most likely racists (and the corollary: people who seriously believe that men have the worse end of discrimination are most likely misogynists).
- People who identified with one of the things I listed above, but swear up and down that they aren't racist, are most likely racists.

So yes, there is plenty of racism in this country. You don't have to be burning crosses on someone's lawn to be a racist.
 
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Kandahar said:
Racism doesn't necessarily mean that you believe your race is superior to another race; someone could honestly believe that all races are equal and should be treated equally...and still be a racist. There are many different degrees of racism and different types of racism; people aren't always even aware of their own racism. Not all racists are of the KKK / Neo-Nazi variety. For example:

- White cops who are more likely to pull over black drivers due to their subconscious prejudices are racists.
- Black cops who are more likely to pull over black drivers due to their subconscious prejudices are racists.
- Hillbillies who insist on flying the Confederate flag to show their "southern pride" or as a "symbol of their heritage" are most likely racists.
- People who constantly complain that they can't get ahead due to affirmative action and/or immigration are most likely racists.
- People who feel more threatened when they see a black man walking down the street than when they see a white man walking down the street are racists.
- People who are less likely to support social programs which they subconsciously associate with minorities, as opposed to other spending priorities, are most likely racists.
- People who seriously believe that white people have the worse end of discrimination in our political system are most likely racists (and the corollary: people who seriously believe that men have the worse end of discrimination are most likely misogynists).
- People who identified with one of the things I listed above, but swear up and down that they aren't racist, are most likely racists.

So yes, there is plenty of racism in this country. You don't have to be burning crosses on someone's lawn to be a racist.
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You left off a few.

Minorities who drop out of high school and then claim they can't get a job due to racism are probably racists

Minorities who break the law and then cry racism or racial profiling when they get sent to prison are probably racists

Minorities that blame alll their troubles on slavery and Jim Crow are probably racists

Minority welfare workers who look at a white foodstamp applicant like they just killed trayvon martin are probably racists

Black dudes who throw rocks at your car when you get lost and drive thru their neighborhood are probably racistsravists.

Funny thing about racists...they come in ALL colors
 
OscarB63 said:
Minorities who drop out of high school and then claim they can't get a job due to racism are probably racists
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Possibly. However, there IS a lot of racism against minorities in our education system.

Minorities who break the law and then cry racism or racial profiling when they get sent to prison are probably racists
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Possibly. However, there IS a lot of racism against minorities in our criminal justice system.

Minorities that blame alll their troubles on slavery and Jim Crow are probably racists
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No, but white people who think that this is what minorities do are probably racists.

Minority welfare workers who look at a white foodstamp applicant like they just killed trayvon martin are probably racists
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Since this doesn't actually happen often (ever?), the more plausible conclusion I am drawing is that YOU are probably a racist. See above re: People who seriously believe that white people have the worse end of discrimination in our political system are most likely racists.

Black dudes who throw rocks at your car when you get lost and drive thru their neighborhood are probably racistsravists.
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Just rocks? Do they throw their fried chicken and watermelon at your car too, or is that commodity too precious to go to waste as a weapon? I have another item to add to my list:

- White people who have paranoid fantasies that they're going to get into some kind of altercation just driving through a black neighborhood are racists. :roll:

Funny thing about racists...they come in ALL colors
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This is very true. However, racism is a problem that negatively affects minorities far more than it affects white people.
 
OscarB63 said:
Stil nothing to show there are not opportinities for minorities who choose to avail themselves of them
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This has nothing to do with my response or your ignorant reply. Nice dodge.
 
Black_Zawisza said:
Are you saying that believing people have the right to segregate from everyone but their own race is racist?
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Believing they have the right even though no right exist? No. Wanting to and preaching this ideology, yes.
 
Black_Zawisza said:
Are you saying that believing people have the right to segregate from everyone but their own race is racist?
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Whether wanting to segregate or not, treating "race" as if it were real in the first place necessarily makes such a position racist. Arguing in favor of segregation based upon race implies that "race" is a real thing in the first place.

Arguing about whether or not people effectively have or don't have a particular right is an empirical question.
Arguing about whether or not people SHOULD or SHOULD NOT have a particular right is an ethical question.
 
People who believed Tawana Brawley and Crystal Mangum but are convinced George Zimmerman is lying are probably racists
 
Blackdog said:
This has nothing to do with my response or your ignorant reply. Nice dodge.
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Seeing how none of your responses have addressed my original point, it is quite hilarious of you to accuse me of dodging.

Pot....meet kettle
 
OscarB63 said:
People who believed Tawana Brawley and Crystal Mangum but are convinced George Zimmerman is lying are probably racists
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that might be true, but only if they have a trend of NOT believing white folks while ALWAYS believing black folks.

a racial double-standard can indeed be seen as racism.
 
OscarB63 said:
Seeing how none of your responses have addressed my original point, it is quite hilarious of you to accuse me of dodging.

Pot....meet kettle
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That is a lie, but you know this. Your original point has been smashed so many times it is not even viable anymore. That's why you have not mentioned it.

Here is your original post...

http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/122447-new-definition-racist-2.html#post1060343448

So going to dodge that one again? :lol:

Here is my first reply...

http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/122447-new-definition-racist-8.html#post1060346756

Here is my second response to you which you ignored...

http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/122447-new-definition-racist-9.html#post1060346835

You ignored it because you can't respond to fact with your particular brad of whiny fiction.

So yes you were shown to be wrong, and continue even in the face of overwhelming evidence deny it.
 
Blackdog said:
That is a lie, but you know this. Your original point has been smashed so many times it is not even viable anymore. That's why you have not mentioned it.

Here is your original post...

http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/122447-new-definition-racist-2.html#post1060343448

So going to dodge that one again? :lol:

Here is my first reply...

http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/122447-new-definition-racist-8.html#post1060346756

Here is my second response to you which you ignored...

http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/122447-new-definition-racist-9.html#post1060346835

You ignored it because you can't respond to fact with your particular brad of whiny fiction.

So yes you were shown to be wrong, and continue even in the face of overwhelming evidence deny it.
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Methinks he doth protest too much
 
People who rioted and looted their own neighborhoods when the rodney king cops got off but cheered when oj got off are probably racists
 
Which begs the question: why is it that when black folks get pissed off they riot, burn and loot their own neighborhoods or vandalize some random walgreens or other establishment that had no involvement with the issue? You didn't see white folks going out and attacking random black dudes when OJ got off. You didn't see white folks looting walmarts when the Duke lacrosse guys were falsely accused. The KKK didn't put a bounty on Obama's head when he was elected POTUS.
 
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OscarB63 said:
Which begs the question: why is it that when black folks get pissed off they riot, burn and loot their own neighborhoods or vandalize some random walgreens or other establishment that had no involvement with the issue?
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Again with this stupidity? Why do white people riot and burn cars when a sports team looses? Or trample people at a concert? It took a little time but I am now convinced you are indeed a racist. You have a huge chip on your shoulder with blacks, and it is bad.
 
OscarB63 said:
Which begs the question: why is it that when black folks get pissed off they riot, burn and loot their own neighborhoods or vandalize some random walgreens or other establishment that had no involvement with the issue?
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Because MLK was taken way too soon from this world, and that vacuum was filled with racist, race baiters, and those out to benefit themselves like the NBPP as a sad replacement for that great man.
 
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