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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I really think he believes that crap. I think that scares me the most. So much for individual freedom.
    this is not the first time he has used such negative stereotypes against blacks.

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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    this is not the first time he has used such negative stereotypes against blacks.
    Don't care about his previous posts. This one was just to over the top. I mean I can understand why he feels this way, but I thought conservatives stood for individual freedom and responsibility, guess I was wrong.
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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Then stop the people of your race? What kind of moronic statement is that? I'll get right on it boss! We be good nigga's and tell da rest of dem darkies; massa Oscar said to be good!

    So blacks are lazy and like to steal? That is also a stereotype like Mexican's being lazy? The problem is you are confusing racial issues for things that are cultural. Your watermelon and fried chicken for example. Most Southerners like it as well. Has nothing at all to do with race. Far to many come from antiquated bigotry that people like you obviously cling to.



    And white people go berserk over sporting events. So what?

    Do you really want to go there?

    FACT: although they are less than 10% of the population, black males are responssible for over 1/3 of the crimes in this country

    FACT: blacks are 3 times more likely to be the victim of murder than any other race and their killers are overwhelmingly another black person

    You can't blame that on "racism"

    It's not about being a good "nigga" for massah, it's about taking responsibility for your own actions.

    If stating so makes me a racist, then so be it
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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    Do you really want to go there?

    FACT: although they are less than 10% of the population, black males are responssible for over 1/3 of the crimes in this country

    FACT: blacks are 3 times more likely to be the victim of murder than any other race and their killers are overwhelmingly another black person...
    there are serious historical & socio-economic factors that are directly responsible for these issues. but if you choose to ignore all of this, and just focus on skin color, then you can expect charges of racism.

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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    It's not about being a good "nigga" for massah, it's about taking responsibility for your own actions.
    "Convinc[ing] the people of your race to stop the[ir] behavior" is not "taking responsibility for your own actions". On the contrary, it's taking responsibility for other people's actions.

    The rest of your post doesn't even make sense because Blackdog didn't blame people's behavior on racism. Jesus Christ. Could you fail any harder?

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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

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    I can't watch it at the moment, but I remember this scene well and think its explains a lot.

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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    Do you really want to go there?
    Absolutly!

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    FACT: although they are less than 10% of the population, black males are responssible for over 1/3 of the crimes in this country
    Off to a bad start. Blacks make up 13% of the US population. Most of those crimes are drug related, nice how you don't mention that little tidbit.

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    FACT: blacks are 3 times more likely to be the victim of murder than any other race and their killers are overwhelmingly another black person

    You can't blame that on "racism"
    I am not blaming anything on racism. Nice jump to a bull**** conclusion. Again that statistic is drug related. If we legalized drugs like alcohol you would see a drastic drop in all of those. In fact those statistics are high from mostly the inner city's. I guess you never saw the history of the violence during prohibition? Same thing. Has little to do with race and allot to do with circumstance.

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    It's not about being a good "nigga" for massah, it's about taking responsibility for your own actions.
    You said nothing about anyone taking responsibility for their own actions. You said "If you want to end racial profiling, convince the people of your race to stop the behavior being profiled." So if I do not go out and tell blacks to behave, I am not taking responsibility for myself and deserve to be profiled based on my race alone?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    If stating so makes me a racist, then so be it
    Again with a jump to illogical bull****. I never said you were racist? I said your statement was moronic, not racist.
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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    ....You said "If you want to end racial profiling, convince the people of your race to stop the behavior being profiled.".....
    indeed, this comment blaims possibly racist actions by cops, on the folks who may very well not be reflecting the stereotypical behaviors.

    living in NYC, I can't tell you how many professional, intelligent, and honest blacks I know who have been treated like **** just cause of what they look like.

    blaming these actions on blacks down in Alabama who drink malt liquor, eat fried chicken & watermelon, is disgusting.
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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Then stop the people of your race? What kind of moronic statement is that? I'll get right on it boss! We be good nigga's and tell da rest of dem darkies; massa Oscar said to be good!

    So blacks are lazy and like to steal? That is also a stereotype like Mexican's being lazy? The problem is you are confusing racial issues for things that are cultural. Your watermelon and fried chicken for example. Most Southerners like it as well. Has nothing at all to do with race. Far to many come from antiquated bigotry that people like you obviously cling to.



    And white people go berserk over sporting events. So what?
    I'm no racist by any stretch. But all human beings are guilty of profiling each other. You see a woman in revealing clothes, you assume she's promiscuous. You see a white guy wearing a NASCAR shirt, you assume he's southern. You see a black guy on a street corner in a bad neighborhood, you assume he's up to something. It's a vicious cycle that we have created. We profile people that look a certain way. The people being profiled portray themselves that way because they assume that's what gets them results. The woman in revealing clothes knows that attracts more men, the guy wearing a NASCAR shirt fits in with the rest of the NASCAR fans, the black guy on the corner knows people will come to him for drugs. You can call it racial profiling all you want. I think its simply using the data and indicators in your mind to deduce what kind of person someone is based off of appearance. We are trained to do it in the military. In Iraq, you see an Arabic male, 18-30, taking pictures of your guardposts, you swoop out and detain him. That's not profiling. That is predicting his intent by using indicators that we have associated with terrorist activity. Could he simply be a student of the University of Baghdad doing a report on the American occupation? Sure, he could. But the indicators suggest other intent. By the way, that's a true story about the Iraqi guy. I will debate this with someone all day because EVERY person is guilty of stereotypes and profiling. Its called having a discerning mind. Not racism
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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    I'm no racist by any stretch. But all human beings are guilty of profiling each other. You see a woman in revealing clothes, you assume she's promiscuous. You see a white guy wearing a NASCAR shirt, you assume he's southern. You see a black guy on a street corner in a bad neighborhood, you assume he's up to something. It's a vicious cycle that we have created. We profile people that look a certain way. The people being profiled portray themselves that way because they assume that's what gets them results. The woman in revealing clothes knows that attracts more men, the guy wearing a NASCAR shirt fits in with the rest of the NASCAR fans, the black guy on the corner knows people will come to him for drugs. You can call it racial profiling all you want. I think its simply using the data and indicators in your mind to deduce what kind of person someone is based off of appearance. We are trained to do it in the military. In Iraq, you see an Arabic male, 18-30, taking pictures of your guardposts, you swoop out and detain him. That's not profiling. That is predicting his intent by using indicators that we have associated with terrorist activity. Could he simply be a student of the University of Baghdad doing a report on the American occupation? Sure, he could. But the indicators suggest other intent. By the way, that's a true story about the Iraqi guy. I will debate this with someone all day because EVERY person is guilty of stereotypes and profiling. Its called having a discerning mind. Not racism
    I think you're mixing up racial profiling with behavioral profiling. Assuming a black guy is a criminal because he's black is racial profiling...and dumb. Assuming a black guy on a corner that is known for drug dealing is a dealer is behavioral profiling (assuming all black guys on corners in bad neighborhoods are dealing is a stretch though). Also, I think assuming a man is Southern because of a NASCAR hat and a a woman is promiscuous for wearing revealing clothes are stretches too. I think there would have to be more behavior signals for me to make those assumptions particularly since scant clothing is a trend now and people in the North see NASCAR.

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