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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    New definition of racism:

    Racist = not liberal
    Only in American's world of black and white.
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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    New definition of racism:

    Racist = not liberal
    Racist = anyone who says anything negative about a person of color, no matter how trivial or true the statement may be, without loudly and incessantly blaming someone other than the person of color for the shortcoming.

    What I find funny are those few people who will actually admit that blacks can be racists towards whites will invariably say that such racism is justified due to the actions of some whites that died over 100 years ago.
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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    Racist = anyone who says anything negative about a person of color, no matter how trivial or true the statement may be, without loudly and incessantly blaming someone other than the person of color for the shortcoming......
    this is a pathetic strawman frequently used by folks seeking to whitewash & disregard their own racist comments.

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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Well before we can define what a racist is, we need to know or define racism...

    1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
    2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
    3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

    Examples:

    1. White people are better because we are white.
    2. Nazi Germany and the treatment of Jews.
    3. White or Black nationalists who believe they have the right to segregate from everyone but their own race.

    So it is pretty simple.

    The problem is far to many see bigotry or insensitivity as racism, and I think it is just thinned skinned and stupid.
    Are you saying that believing people have the right to segregate from everyone but their own race is racist?

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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    this is a pathetic strawman frequently used by folks seeking to whitewash & disregard their own racist comments.
    Gotcha, you think it's racist to speak the truth. Thanks for clearing that up.
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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Let me know what you think about this new definition for "racist". Mind you, please keep in mind today's social and political climate.

    Racist:

    1: Anyone that says or does anything even remotely or subjectively negative towards someone that is not of their race.

    2: A belief that your race is superior to that of another race.
    Racism doesn't necessarily mean that you believe your race is superior to another race; someone could honestly believe that all races are equal and should be treated equally...and still be a racist. There are many different degrees of racism and different types of racism; people aren't always even aware of their own racism. Not all racists are of the KKK / Neo-Nazi variety. For example:

    - White cops who are more likely to pull over black drivers due to their subconscious prejudices are racists.
    - Black cops who are more likely to pull over black drivers due to their subconscious prejudices are racists.
    - Hillbillies who insist on flying the Confederate flag to show their "southern pride" or as a "symbol of their heritage" are most likely racists.
    - People who constantly complain that they can't get ahead due to affirmative action and/or immigration are most likely racists.
    - People who feel more threatened when they see a black man walking down the street than when they see a white man walking down the street are racists.
    - People who are less likely to support social programs which they subconsciously associate with minorities, as opposed to other spending priorities, are most likely racists.
    - People who seriously believe that white people have the worse end of discrimination in our political system are most likely racists (and the corollary: people who seriously believe that men have the worse end of discrimination are most likely misogynists).
    - People who identified with one of the things I listed above, but swear up and down that they aren't racist, are most likely racists.

    So yes, there is plenty of racism in this country. You don't have to be burning crosses on someone's lawn to be a racist.
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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Racism doesn't necessarily mean that you believe your race is superior to another race; someone could honestly believe that all races are equal and should be treated equally...and still be a racist. There are many different degrees of racism and different types of racism; people aren't always even aware of their own racism. Not all racists are of the KKK / Neo-Nazi variety. For example:

    - White cops who are more likely to pull over black drivers due to their subconscious prejudices are racists.
    - Black cops who are more likely to pull over black drivers due to their subconscious prejudices are racists.
    - Hillbillies who insist on flying the Confederate flag to show their "southern pride" or as a "symbol of their heritage" are most likely racists.
    - People who constantly complain that they can't get ahead due to affirmative action and/or immigration are most likely racists.
    - People who feel more threatened when they see a black man walking down the street than when they see a white man walking down the street are racists.
    - People who are less likely to support social programs which they subconsciously associate with minorities, as opposed to other spending priorities, are most likely racists.
    - People who seriously believe that white people have the worse end of discrimination in our political system are most likely racists (and the corollary: people who seriously believe that men have the worse end of discrimination are most likely misogynists).
    - People who identified with one of the things I listed above, but swear up and down that they aren't racist, are most likely racists.

    So yes, there is plenty of racism in this country. You don't have to be burning crosses on someone's lawn to be a racist.
    You left off a few.

    Minorities who drop out of high school and then claim they can't get a job due to racism are probably racists

    Minorities who break the law and then cry racism or racial profiling when they get sent to prison are probably racists

    Minorities that blame alll their troubles on slavery and Jim Crow are probably racists

    Minority welfare workers who look at a white foodstamp applicant like they just killed trayvon martin are probably racists

    Black dudes who throw rocks at your car when you get lost and drive thru their neighborhood are probably racistsravists.

    Funny thing about racists...they come in ALL colors
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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    Minorities who drop out of high school and then claim they can't get a job due to racism are probably racists
    Possibly. However, there IS a lot of racism against minorities in our education system.

    Minorities who break the law and then cry racism or racial profiling when they get sent to prison are probably racists
    Possibly. However, there IS a lot of racism against minorities in our criminal justice system.

    Minorities that blame alll their troubles on slavery and Jim Crow are probably racists
    No, but white people who think that this is what minorities do are probably racists.

    Minority welfare workers who look at a white foodstamp applicant like they just killed trayvon martin are probably racists
    Since this doesn't actually happen often (ever?), the more plausible conclusion I am drawing is that YOU are probably a racist. See above re: People who seriously believe that white people have the worse end of discrimination in our political system are most likely racists.

    Black dudes who throw rocks at your car when you get lost and drive thru their neighborhood are probably racistsravists.
    Just rocks? Do they throw their fried chicken and watermelon at your car too, or is that commodity too precious to go to waste as a weapon? I have another item to add to my list:

    - White people who have paranoid fantasies that they're going to get into some kind of altercation just driving through a black neighborhood are racists.

    Funny thing about racists...they come in ALL colors
    This is very true. However, racism is a problem that negatively affects minorities far more than it affects white people.
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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    Stil nothing to show there are not opportinities for minorities who choose to avail themselves of them
    This has nothing to do with my response or your ignorant reply. Nice dodge.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by Black_Zawisza View Post
    Are you saying that believing people have the right to segregate from everyone but their own race is racist?
    Believing they have the right even though no right exist? No. Wanting to and preaching this ideology, yes.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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