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  • A bit too broad

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  • Way to broad (original definition is just fine ty)

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Thread: The new definition of "Racist".

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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    you're confusing racist with dishonest.

    what a shock.
    You are wasting your time dear. I am not going to reply to you any longer. Over and out.

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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by Neal N. Bloeme View Post
    You are wasting your time dear. I am not going to reply to you any longer. Over and out.
    that's fine. meanwhile I shall continue to respond to yours.

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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    ...BTW, your sig is offensive. Michelle Obama's ass is not an issue.
    it used to say "if Obama had a son he would look like Louis Farrakhan".
    Last edited by Thunder; 03-31-12 at 05:58 PM.

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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    So actually saying that one race is inferior is somehow better???

    You just want to paint everyone to your left as the worst people ever to exist, and in your desperation to prove it you can't look at an actual racist statement if it doesn't come from "the big Evil Left."

    BTW, your sig is offensive. Michelle Obama's ass is not an issue.
    Nope. YOU are the one who said "So actually saying that one race is inferior is somehow better". Not me.

    I don't care if you find my sig offensive.

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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by PrometheusBound View Post
    "The White devil made them do it"? No, it is the devil inside them that drives their unfit behavior. Turning these people loose on society is no more humanitarian than turning other wild creatures loose. Their behavior in Africa and Haiti, where they have escaped from White domination, proves that it is nature rather than nurture and not the multiculturalists' dangerous and self-assured theory of outside rather than inside forces driving the whole plague.
    That is a completely and utterly ignorant statement. Do you know anything about the history of Haiti or Africa? I mean anything at all? Now you call blacks the equivalent of wild animals and expect to be taken seriously? LMAO!
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    You can successfully wipe your ass with toilet paper, that doesn't mean that you should.

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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by PrometheusBound View Post
    And the references are obvious. Instead, he should have asked, "How is it weak to stand up for our national ideals?" , "Whose fault is it that they act like savages?" instead of pretending he didn't understand the references. If we followed the Liberals' definition of our ideals, we'd turn the country back over to the Indians and let them keep everything we built here. We'd wimp out like Reginald Denney and feel all touchy-feely and morally superior about letting a wild herd of Africans trample us down. Liberals have a secret desire to be raped or to cheer at the rape of civilization.
    He is me, and I was pointing out your cowardice and ignorance, nothing more. I mean you have no real argument and no evidence to back any of it up. It's just Storm Front hyperbole at it's best. That is why you ignored it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
    Quote Originally Posted by Absentglare View Post
    You can successfully wipe your ass with toilet paper, that doesn't mean that you should.

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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".


    Now lets talk about the real misinformation you are spouting...

    [B]A national report released this week by financial aid guru Mark Kantrowitz finds minority students are less likely to win private scholarships or receive merit-based institutional grants than Caucasian students a pattern that also holds true in CA
    Less likely to WIN or receive MERIT-BASED....

    And that just HAS to be due to racism. It couldn't possibly be because they are less qualified. Always has to be because of racism. Always have to blame someone else.
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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    Less likely to WIN or receive MERIT-BASED....

    And that just HAS to be due to racism. It couldn't possibly be because they are less qualified. Always has to be because of racism. Always have to blame someone else.
    Yea ignore the rest, got ya!

    No the article says nothing about racism being the cause or being less qualified. You have been wrong so many times at this point why don't you just shut it and try and learn something. It is simple if you would actually read the article before showing your ignorance of the subject matter yet again...

    This does not appear to be due to deliberate discrimination, but rather as a natural result of the personal interests of the scholarship sponsors. Scholarship sponsors tend to establish scholarships that select for characteristics, activities and talents of interest to them. These factors, in turn, tend to resonate with students of the same racial background as the sponsor. For example, African-American students are much less likely to participate in equestrian sports (horseback riding, polo, rodeo), water sports (scuba diving, sailing, surfing, swimming, crew, water polo) and winter sports (ice hockey, skiing, snowboarding, figure skating) than Caucasian students.

    Has nothing to do with racism.
    Last edited by Black Dog; 03-31-12 at 07:30 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    Less likely to WIN or receive MERIT-BASED....

    And that just HAS to be due to racism. It couldn't possibly be because they are less qualified. Always has to be because of racism. Always have to blame someone else.
    Once again: the notion that -- in the absence of remedial measures (like affirmative action) the previous and/or otherwise dominant hiring and admissions systems would be meritocratic...is a deeply racist notion, because the material facts of privilege (the fact that "white" people are disproportionately represented among the wealthy and the well-connected) would -- IF one was under the delusion of believing that we are (for the most part) living under a meritocracy -- lead one inevitably to the conclusion that "white" folks are just better/smarter/harder-working than everyone else (or else how could they have accumulated their privilege?!?).

    Of course, in reality, hiring and admissions isn't meritocratic even on a good day. There is an artificially scarce number of feasible job opportunities and an artificially scarce number of admissions slots for college education. As such, employers and colleges necessarily engage in all kinds of filtering and discrimination to figure out who will and who will not be offered a position or admission. The question is not IF such institutions will discriminate -- as they're currently set up, they HAVE to -- rather the question is to who extent are the bases of that discrimination grounded in some kind of substantive assessment of applicants.

    Specific institutions may have conscientious -- and even well-designed and implemented -- systems for not *adding onto* the "normal"/ "background radiation" level of unjust discrimination, but they cannot possibly fully cancel out the already-manifest forms of discrimination applicants have been living with before they apply. All the usual disparities -- attached to the usual bases of discrimination -- affect applicants' chances by impacting their lives long before any of them fills out an application. Furthermore, job opportunities are based upon a combination of connections (access to/knowledge of opportunities) and bargaining power, which is NOT the same thing as competence in the job/work role itself. Academic admissions is heavily tilted in favor of compliance with authority and high grades, which also do NOT reliably measure competence in a subject (rather, they measure competence in complying with external demands imposed upon them by authority figures).

    A REAL meritocracy would be very messy, time consuming to switch to, and most of all it would be revolutionary, as it would inevitably force a resolution of the conflict between merit-based full employment (damn near everyone can do something well enough to warrant making a living...IF merit is truly the basis of recognition and hire...vs. the artificial scarcity of gainful employment imposed by capitalism (no substantial surplus labor pool = loss of the primary means of forcing people to accept underpayment for their work).

    So these issues cut much deeper than superficial (and rarely examined) notions of merit.
    I've moved on to a better forum (scienceforums.net). Facts matter, and I don't have the time or energy for putting up with the pretense that they don't. PM me if you'd like me to get in touch with you when I'm done developing my own forum system, likely towards the end of 2013.

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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by Neal N. Bloeme View Post

    I don't care if you find my sig offensive.
    And that is the point of it is it not?

    Race baiting posts are suppose to be offensive are they not?

    Repeatedly repeating extremist right wing talking points about race and people of other races are suppose to be offensive are they not?

    Starting threads for the purpose of bashing other races or getting out the extremist message on race are suppose to be offensive are they not?

    That is fundamental and basic to the role of the provocateur.
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