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Thread: The new definition of "Racist".

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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by PrometheusBound View Post
    What is better about being a weakling traitor to civilized humanity?
    And who would this civilized humanity be?

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    Do you feel lonely and picked on by civilized people and hope that the savages will be your friends?
    Who are the savages?

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    All of us are suffering from the anti-racism of this Second Reconstruction Era.
    I am going to go out on a limb here and say this is most likely a racist rant.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by PrometheusBound View Post
    Also, the Liberals' cognitive dissonance in saying that Rednecks are stupid but dismissing Blacks' low IQ scores by saying that there is no way to measure or judge intelligence. The point is that we can't judge other races the way we normally judge people in our own race. Leave your brains at the door when you enter the multicultie fantasyland.
    Any one who says rednecks are stupid is ignorant. Of course I don't hear a whole lot of it. Rednecks are not well educated as a general rule(I know, I am one of them), but stupid, not at all. Typical redneck farmer has a set of skills and knowledge that is enviable. Again, I repeat, it's not something I have heard alot that rednecks are stupid. Would you care to show where people are making that claim?
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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by PrometheusBound View Post
    What is better about being a weakling traitor to civilized humanity? Do you feel lonely and picked on by civilized people and hope that the savages will be your friends? All of us are suffering from the anti-racism of this Second Reconstruction Era.
    Who are these "weakling traitors" and "savages". Without that being stated, your post is gibberish.
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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Who are these "weakling traitors" and "savages". Without that being stated, your post is gibberish.
    It's like turning on a light and watching the cockroaches scatter. Anytime you hit em with the tough questions based on fact, they scurry away to hide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    Thanks. Yours is exactly the attitude I am talking about. There are negative stereotypes about every race or group. Asians can't drive, southerners **** their cousins, etc. But you and yours only squeal racism over black stereotypes.
    My post, below, was very clear; it stated "I haven’t found any difference that I can resolve when it comes to skin color between those that consider then selves black, white, or any other color." (I used a blue that I don't think any humans have so I'd not show a bias. LOL) I was a racial minority, a WOP (with out passport). I've seen racism between between identifiable people in a South East Asian country and in Phoenix AZ and the Four corners area. I lived within a mile of the Indian School on Indian School Rd. in Phoenix. But I took wood working and Kachina carving lessons from a Hopi who was close to my family. Back then there was racial bias between the Hopi and Navajo; but I was just up in the 4 Corners area chatting with some Navajos and mentioning Hopi and I didn't detect any racial bias. got to go

    Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then
    Thanks. Your writing is a concise example of racism. Let’s examine "enough blacks" as a quantified measurement. And lets select lazy. I haven't seen any data that that blacks are the only ones that are lazy. Also I haven't noticed that blacks are the color black; and, at an anthropological level people that have essentially the same color are usually racially quite different. So, what you are saying w/o knowing it is that people that share a color are a race. But your description is based on an assumed culture. An if you really look at culture only I have found lazy in white culture and I haven’t found any difference that I can resolve when it comes to skin color between those that consider then selves black, white, or any other color. This is all for now.
    Last edited by OhIsee.Then; 03-31-12 at 12:25 PM.

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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by PrometheusBound View Post
    What is better about being a weakling traitor to civilized humanity? Do you feel lonely and picked on by civilized people and hope that the savages will be your friends? All of us are suffering from the anti-racism of this Second Reconstruction Era.
    what in God's name are you talking about?

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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Well, that may be true, but the argument that blacks cannot be racist because they lack the ability to force their racism on others is still extremely prevalent.
    While actually quite rare, there are indeed some who push that stance. It's certainly not prevalent (prevalent means a view which remains the most commonly accepted or promoted one in the presence of opposition from other views...i.e. it prevails over alternatives), let alone "extremely" prevalent. Quite clearly, the prevalent narrative about racism in at least the U.S. if not also many other countries is that it is a matter of sick personal beliefs which make claims of superiority or inferiority about groups of people based upon "race." This is, of course, barely the tip of the iceberg and a woefully incomplete (not broad enough) conception of racism.

    What many are trying to express, however, is a different point. "Blacks" are of course capable of participating in racism, but (within the United States) they lack the institutional and aggregate political power to turn such participation into racist oppression. They do not dominate the corporate workplace, mass media narratives, the state or federal government, academia, etc. in the way "whites" do vis-a-vis the axis of "race." With the common sloppiness/neglect so prevalent in attempts at public discourse on racism, however, many speakers/writers get lazy and fail to make an explicit distinction between racist dogma/personal belief on one hand vs. racist oppression (which is different from and doesn't even require racist belief in order to be perpetuated) on the other.

    A big part of such sloppiness/neglect in communication on this front is a response to the knee-jerk false equivalency often sincerely promoted by apologists for white racism. The false assertion that since people of color *can* participate in racism, that they implicitly do so with the same frequency, depth, and power behind participation in racism by "white" people, often follows just a step behind. It is in anticipation of this horrendous bull**** and trivialization that the sloppy failure to distinguish between racism vs. racist oppression is often couched. It's still a mistake, but I've seen where it comes from.

    Arguably the single most productive point one can use as a foundation for setting up a meaningful discussion of racism and racist oppression is that it's not primarily a matter of good vs. bad intentions. "White" people have been and still are trained into blindness about their own privilege on the axis of "race", and so they (we) get defensive about issues of racism *even when no one in the discussion is assigning personal blame*. Taking some explicit efforts to defuse such anxiety can go a long way towards dragging things kicking and screaming back to something resembling rationality. Is it fair to have to put up with such arbitrary and uneven efforts just to get a privileged population comfortable enough to approach a topic honestly? No...but then again, racism isn't about what's fair and so a great deal of that unfairness and disparity must be recognized as a tactical necessity.
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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by cmakaioz View Post
    While actually quite rare, there are indeed some who push that stance. It's certainly not prevalent (prevalent means a view which remains the most commonly accepted or promoted one in the presence of opposition from other views), let alone "extremely" prevalent.

    What many are trying to express, however, is a different point. "Blacks" are of course capable of participating in racism, but (within the United States) they lack the institutional and aggregate political power to turn such participation into racist oppression. They do not dominate the corporate workplace, mass media narratives, the state or federal government, academia, etc. in the way "whites" do vis-a-vis the axis of "race."....
    a black man can own a store, a factory, a large corporation.

    he can discriminate against whites, as owner of that entity.

    that is racism. and some might say oppresive racism.

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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    a black man can own a store, a factory, a large corporation.

    he can discriminate against whites, as owner of that entity.

    that is racism. and some might say oppresive racism.
    Not what he is talking about. He is saying blacks do not exist in those positions in relevant numbers to be able to push a racist agenda on a large private or political scale.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Not what he is talking about. He is saying blacks do not exist in those positions in relevant numbers to be able to push a racist agenda on a large private or political scale.
    that may or may not be true.

    but in some cities and areas, blacks do indeed control enough of the political & economic system to push a racist agenda.

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