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Thread: The new definition of "Racist".

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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    i dont understand why the blacks are regarded as a minority.
    It's a sloppy term at best. It's really an intended reference to political vulnerability. For example, women are still politically vulnerable and face sexist oppression despite it being questionable that they are a NUMERICAL minority.

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    i think both blacks and whites had settled down in america almost in the same period . in the 16th century, hundred thousands of blacks had been brought to america to be forced into slavery. neither their number nor their color must be a criteria to be seen as minority.in fact their number was much more in the past than now
    There are still far, far fewer people identified as "black" than as "white." But in any case, the salient point is about political power.

    Never mind the fact that the United States doesn't now, and never has, operated on a majoritarian basis, but that's for another thread.
    I've moved on to a better forum (scienceforums.net). Facts matter, and I don't have the time or energy for putting up with the pretense that they don't. PM me if you'd like me to get in touch with you when I'm done developing my own forum system, likely towards the end of 2013.

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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    Sorry. I am posting from my phone and must have missed it amid the thunder clutter.
    Hehehe! Thunder clutter! I like it.

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    Let me be clear. I do not hate all black people. I do not think all blacks are stupid, lazy or criminals. I think it is stupid to base your opinion of someone based on a stereotype. However, that does not change that fact that they exist and that they exist in part due to the actions of some black people. It will take efforts from BOTH sides to erase them. It is not as simple as "white people need to stop believing them" or "black people need to act better"
    Who said you hate black people? You really need to stop being so defensive.

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    That said, i do hate black people who ARE lazy, stupid or criminals. But guess what? I also hate white people who are stupid, lazy or criminals.

    My problem is with people who try to blame their problems on someone else. ie the reason so many black dudes get arrested is because of racism or racial profiling. In case you haven't noticed, there are plenty of white dudes in prisons for the same crimes as their black brothers.
    I dislike anyone who is like that. Lord knows enough of them exist. This begs the question; why do you only single out blacks? The lions share of welfare and public aid including Federal loans goes to whites. Yet you still single out blacks for your rants?

    I don't think you are racist but it is obvious (going by your posts) that you have an issue with blacks at some level.

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    Yes a black dude driving/walking through a white neighborhood is likely to get stopped by the cops even if he has done nothing wrong. But a white dude driving/walking through a black neighborhood is just as likely to get stopped for no reason. Has happened to me on a couple of occassions. Was at Ft Benning TDY and my boys came to visit for a week. I needed daycare so I asked my roommate (a black LT) who had moved his family to Columbus where his kids went. So i signed my kids up for the week at a black church in a black neighborhood. 2nd morning on the way to drop them off i was stopped at a red light and a black cop pulled up behind me. Light turned green and i pulled away. Cop followed me for a couple of blocks then hit the lights. Said I ran the red light and asked what i was doing in the area. When i told him taking my kids to daycare he looked in the back of my van. The look on his face when he saw 2 little black boys grinning back at him was priceless and well worth the inconvenience.
    OK.

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    Point being. Racial profiling happens both ways. It's just that more black dudes tend to drive through white hoods than the other way around because the are simply more white hoods and most white dudes don't tend to drive through black hoods. No use getting all defensive and bent out of shape over it.
    That is exactly what I said?

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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    ...I don't think you are racist but it is obvious (going by your posts) that you have an issue with blacks at some level....
    this seems to be the case.

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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    i dont understand why the blacks are regarded as a minority. i think both blacks and whites had settled down in america almost in the same period . in the 16th century, hundred thousands of blacks had been brought to america to be forced into slavery. neither their number nor their color must be a criteria to be seen as minority.in fact their number was much more in the past than now
    While searching for statistics, saw an article that said there are more black men in prison today than were slaves in 1850

    There Are More Black Males in Jail Today Than Were Slaves in 1850 | The Stir

    The author is a black female

    "30% of black males are either locked up or on probation or parole, and plenty more have at some point been one of the three"

    She blames their mothers
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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    While searching for statistics, saw an article that said there are more black men in prison today than were slaves in 1850

    There Are More Black Males in Jail Today Than Were Slaves in 1850 | The Stir

    The author is a black female

    "30% of black males are either locked up or on probation or parole, and plenty more have at some point been one of the three"

    She blames their mothers
    This has absolutely nothing to do with what Medusa posted. At this point, it seems like your only goal is to smear and complain about black Americans. What's the deal?

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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    While searching for statistics, saw an article that said there are more black men in prison today than were slaves in 1850

    There Are More Black Males in Jail Today Than Were Slaves in 1850 | The Stir

    The author is a black female

    "30% of black males are either locked up or on probation or parole, and plenty more have at some point been one of the three"

    She blames their mothers
    what about the masters of her ancestors? maybe this fact derives from a probable traumatic behavior disorder which passed down to new generations of blacks.crime rates of blacks have no relation with what i posted.
    Last edited by Medusa; 03-30-12 at 03:46 PM.

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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    While searching for statistics, saw an article that said there are more black men in prison today than were slaves in 1850

    There Are More Black Males in Jail Today Than Were Slaves in 1850 | The Stir

    The author is a black female

    "30% of black males are either locked up or on probation or parole, and plenty more have at some point been one of the three"

    She blames their mothers
    I blame the stupid & failed war on drugs, discriminatory laws between charges for possession/sale of crack vs. cocaine, and the residual effects of slavery, segregation, and the loss of tens of millions of manufacturing jobs.

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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Hehehe! Thunder clutter! I like it.



    Who said you hate black people? You really need to stop being so defensive.
    Look at all the libs here who routinely call me a racist. Thunder, theplaydrive, hatuey, redress to name a few. I can't post anything critical about any person of color without one or more of them running in and squealing racist



    I dislike anyone who is like that. Lord knows enough of them exist. This begs the question; why do you only single out blacks? The lions share of welfare and public aid including Federal loans goes to whites. Yet you still single out blacks for your rants?
    Take a look through my posts. I have made plenty of "rants" against EVERYONE who is a serial welfare dependent. I singled out blacks in this thread because it is about racism and I have often heard racism used as an excuse for why many blacks are on welfare.

    FWIW, based on % of population, blacks are very over-represented on welfare rolls. Blacks are 12.6% of the population and account for 39.7% of AFDC. Whites are 72.4% and account for 38.1%. Foodstamps. Blacks 37.2%, whites 46.2%. On average blacks get 33% of total welfare even though they are only 12% of total pop


    I don't think you are racist but it is obvious (going by your posts) that you have an issue with blacks at some level.
    It may come across like that and, to some degree, may be true. I do have an issue with blacks who want to blame all the ills of black culture on racism. Seeing it first hand teaching inner city kids for 10 years probably didn't help much. Nothing to make you cynical like hearing a 21 y/o female with 4 kids by 3 different fathers claim the reason she is stuck in govt housing is because od racism. Or seeing a 19 y/o 9th grader claim he can't get a decent summer job because all the employers are racists.

    Reminds me of when a lady asks "does this dress make me look fat?". No, bitch! Itnis your huge ass and jelly and jelly rolls that make you look fat. The dress has nothing to do with it.

    As far as "whining" and complaining...that's what I thought this forum was for
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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    I blame the stupid & failed war on drugs, discriminatory laws between charges for possession/sale of crack vs. cocaine, and the residual effects of slavery, segregation, and the loss of tens of millions of manufacturing jobs.
    Please dude, there are just as many white dudes in jail for drugs. And that is a copout. Whether you agree or disagree with drug laws, they are the laws and everyone knows it. If you choose to break them, don't blame the law when you get sent to prison. That's just another excuse for not taking responsibility for yourself
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    Re: The new definition of "Racist".

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    Look at all the libs here who routinely call me a racist. Thunder, theplaydrive, hatuey, redress to name a few. I can't post anything critical about any person of color without one or more of them running in and squealing racist...
    that's because anytime a black person does something very wrong, you also find a way to blame his race for the behavior.

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