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    Re: Obama or Bush?

    Quote Originally Posted by wolv67 View Post
    Well i never expected anything from Bush. He never came across as bright or capable, though his cronies sure helped him take advantage of public fear. Obama on the other hand is the great disappointment of my life so far. I'm not sure he's worse at governing, pretty much the same really. He campaigns on the left, telling them what they want to hear, while governing on the center-right. The governing is what matters. The one thing he did that made any difference, that wasn't compromised to near oblivion was ending DADT, and even that came at the expense of extending tax cuts for the wealthy. He's had to deal with a congress that's so shamefully unworthy and self-serving that I could not overstate their uselessness, but still he rarely takes the position i voted on him for from the onset.

    Hearing that story of his mother having to spend her final days haggling with insurance companies, I thought for sure he will fight to end them. Instead we get a mandate to give them more business! He should have started with single payer, something worth spending so much time and political capital for. Instead we got town halls and "death panels" and senators acclaiming the "best health care system in the world," that thoroughly humiliated and exposed the country and for what? 50 million are uninsured, costs keep going up and his damn bill may get struck down even. The point of him not being king to instantly remove Gitmo and Patriot Act etc is correct, but he certainly has authority to end Afghan/Iraq wars that have become too ridiculous to comment on. He certainly could at least attempt to reverse Bush policies or lash into them with his mesmerizing speaking ability. I question that he really wants to though, which is disappointing. He didn't want to look bad if after repealing them we were attacked...May as well wave a white flag right now.

    Making the Repubs look like fools in filibuster sessions would be far more admirable than bowing down to this new 60 votes to pass anything. The filibuster of the Civil Rights bill sure made them look like hateful asses, and some of this might have then actually passed. If Obama of all people, considering his massive popularity in 08, cannot pass anything worthwhile then why do we have a president? Or senate? Why go through the motions anymore? He could have taken a real stand on so many things at this critical time that already have popular support: SSM, wealth inequality, tax loopholes, college costs. In 08 i thought he was a genuine leader who might transcend politics. The real shame will be when like 30% show up to vote because he's let so many down and the Repubs are even worse.
    Your looking just 3 years of work in a workplace that is designed to go slow with large number of people that want to stop anything from being done; and while there is an emergency situation with the economy. And you are upset because more wasn't done. I've worked longer than that with other peers assisting trying to get a company to change so we could be successful. The team didn't get there until it was to late. (Luckily I had moved on before the end.)

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    Re: Obama or Bush?

    I don't know, this is like asking if you would rather have a lobotomy or given Dick Cheney's old heart.
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    Re: Obama or Bush?

    anyone but Ron Paul.

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    Re: Obama or Bush?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I don't know, this is like asking if you would rather have a lobotomy or given Dick Cheney's old heart.
    Oh, to much t consider. I think a lobotomy if I don't have to wear a leash. (My wife just asked if Cheney had a heart and I didn't know for sure. I'm glad I chose the lobotomy.)
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    Re: Obama or Bush?

    I'm not too fond of either, as presidential material, but if I had to choose, it would be Bush, hands down.
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    Re: Obama or Bush?

    Neither fits my hopes...but at least Obama does not make me cringe every time he speaks.

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    Re: Obama or Bush?

    They are essentially the same brand as some have pointed out all ready. Both keep expensive wars going, both expand and create new laws under the Patriot Act, both created expensive healthcare programs that essentially just benefit drug and insurance companies, and of course neither one has produced jobs. That being said Obama actually got Bin Laden and does pretty well for us internationaly by trying to make allies in the world instead of thinking Russia is still some how our enemy.

    Also the other Republican canidates will just be Obama and Bush to the 90th power and will plunge our country into even worse problems. So do the right thing and don't vote. You don't want to feel guilty for voting some a-hole in office who will screw our country up more.
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    Re: Obama or Bush?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Any one but Paul.
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    Re: Obama or Bush?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    OK, a couple of many possible questions.
    1) Exactly how would Obama get rid of Patriot Act that congress passed and and Bush signed into law? Or is Obama the King not the president?
    Patriot Act Extension Signed By Obama





    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    2) We have purchased 2 homes in the past 7 years. And we made a offer in on a third last month that is process now. We had the highest offer of 13. W/O stating the exact price and estimate on building a new equivilant, the 5 year old house from scratch is basically double our offer. Where is the new bubble?
    There is no new bubble, yet. The policies that caused the last one are still in place and the $8k tax credit was an attempt to reinflate the bubble.
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    Re: Obama or Bush?

    Obama. Any day....


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