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    Re: Is he lying?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    wow Xcon ... You are about the first poster who believes there should be no trial!
    Yay!
    I know there are others.
    And I understand others have an opinion, just like I do.

    What I find troubling is those opinions that have been formed by people that lack even a rudimentary knowledge of the actual available evidence.
    I am troubled that people even do that.

    Should not people at least try and seek out all available info before forming an opinion?

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    Re: Is he lying?

    What planet are you FROM???

    The police,

    THE AUTHORITY over the "case,"

    had no gripe with Zimmerman's actions.

    THEY decided that there were No Charges that could be brought against the man,

    and despite what Jeb Bush is mealy-mouthing,

    Florida is a Stand Your Ground state,

    for ANYONE carrying a firearm.

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    Re: Is he lying?



    Couple that with Zimmerman pursuing an unarmed teen recorded on 911 dispatcher despite being told to stop ... and a few minutes later the unarmed teen is dead with George standing on the body and not calling an ambulance.

    He needs to be arrested in the murder and and the truth discovered either way and justice served.

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    Re: Is he lying?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    Sounds like Zimmerman was breaking the rules according to the Watch Association.
    He was a member of his NW.

    It was an unregistered program. As many are.

    The rules are only guideline and he is not required to follow them by any law.
    All that matters is whether his actions were legal or not.



    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    Keep in mind ... the kid was simply walking to a his father's fiance condo in that neighborhood in day light unarmed to watch a game after buying skittles and chatting up his gf on a cell phone. Both Zimmerman and the gf report Trevon as walking away ...!.
    Matter's not in regards to the legality of Zimmerman's actions.



    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    Casing the neighborhood? ... that was only in Georges mind as he pursued the unarmed kid despite training.
    Ding ding ding.
    That is right. In Zimmerman's mind. Which is what matters.
    He called it in and the police believed it to be enough to dispatch an officer.

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    Re: Is he lying?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    ....Zimmerman was on the ground with Martin pounding his head into the concrete according to Zimmerman. The injury to Zimmerman would seem to confirm this.
    Sort of what one might expect when catching up to a person they had been chasing for seemingly no reason?

    Try it sometime.
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    There were, by most estimates, 500 Nazis in Charlottesville. One of them went homicidal. Not all Nazis are violent extremists. You are trying to rationalize your hatred and it's simply not rational.
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    as I noted, its better that 10 nutjobs get guns than one good person be wrongly disarmed.

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    Re: Is he lying?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    Couple that with Zimmerman pursuing an unarmed teen recorded on 911 dispatcher despite being told to stop ... and a few minutes later the unarmed teen is dead with George standing on the body and not calling an ambulance.

    He needs to be arrested in the murder and and the truth discovered either way and justice served.
    I guess you didn't read what came before.
    Zimmerman was not told anything. "We don't need you to that." is not being 'told' anything. It is not an instruction or an order. It was a suggestion that he had no obligation to follow. The Police Chief has even stated that is was only a suggestion and that he was under no obligation to follow.

    Following anybody for the purposes of keeping them under observation until police arrive is not wrong.
    It is actually appropriate.

    He does not need to be arrested.
    An investigation was conducted. There was no evidence that contradicted his statement, but evidence that was consistent with and corroborated it.

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    Re: Is he lying?

    Nobody really knows jack here. The left and much of black America have him pegged as a racist murderer of an unarmed and innocent black child and the right suggests that it was self-defense, neither having a lick of proof. OK, so we are collectively biased and ignorant, nothing new there. One would hope that the president should hold himself to a different standard. Alas, he seems as ignorant a bias as the rest of us.

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    Re: Is he lying?

    Quote Originally Posted by Meathead View Post
    Nobody really knows jack here.
    Not really.
    We have what has been released to us.
    The 911 calls
    Quotes from interviews.
    The original police report.

    What the Chief told us about Zimmerman's statement.
    The Chief himself said that no evidence contradicted Zimmerman's statement. That is in itself hard to over come.

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    Re: Is he lying?

    MORE so, MeatHead.

    Watch for the race riots that he, and these dumbasses that keep stirring this pot, ARE going to cause.

    And you know what?
    These ... what do libtards even call them, nowadays? ... African Americans* ok? ...

    WHAT THE FLUKE HAPPENS to THEM?!?

    Have none of y'all thought this through to it's logical conclusion?

    <sigh>
    Last edited by fyrenza; 03-27-12 at 04:29 AM. Reason: * black folks, in my neck of the woods

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    Re: Is he lying?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    Is Zimmerman lying ... by all accounts imho it seems he is.
    Zimmerman's conversation with the 911 dispatcher directly before the altercation support his claim that he had lost sight of Martin, Martin's girlfriend confirms that it was Martin who confronted Zimmerman about being followed, eye witnesses support his claim that he was on the ground, injuries treated by EMS officials are consistent with both eye witnesses and Zimmerman's version of the events, and observations by the police of blood and grass stains on Zimmerman's clothing corroborate his statements.

    Cutcher and Lamilla only saw after the gun shot. It seems incredibly reasonable to assume Zimmerman was initially unaware of how injured Martin was but leapt to his feet to subdue Martin, which is completely consistent with the women's claim of him pressing his hands to his back, then let up as he realized Martin was dead, which again is consistent with their claims.

    Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but I just don't see how you could come to the conclusion that he must be lying when his version of the events is supported by virtually all the facts.

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