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    Re: Is he lying?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    Oh really. Is he the King of Florida? Please explain to someone of mean intelligence how the Gov got the law changed through the state legislature before the Zimmerman used it.
    My position is that the SYGL makes Florida kind of a foreign country.
    I already pointed this one out. Apparently fyrenza has also not noticed Bush is not long the Gov. of Fla. Fyrenza may want to let Rick Scott know Bush is "disallowing" votes in his state,

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    Re: Is he lying?

    Quote Originally Posted by kenvin View Post
    I don't really care what he thinks.
    I you don't care them why did you comment "Well zimmerman seems to think he will walk because of stand your ground then be free of civil suit too."?

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    Re: Is he lying?

    Has anyone thought about at which point in time Martin and Zimmerman got close enough to each other
    for a physical confrontation to occur?
    I don't see Zimmerman catching up to Martin, or cornering him.
    The only way I see this happening, is that Martin approached Zimmerman.

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    Re: Is he lying?

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    Has anyone thought about at which point in time Martin and Zimmerman got close enough to each other
    for a physical confrontation to occur?
    I don't see Zimmerman catching up to Martin, or cornering him.
    The only way I see this happening, is that Martin approached Zimmerman.
    Martin knew he was being followed according to the girl he was talking to on the phone.

    Knowing that he was being followed, apparently Martin briskly walked behind the residence and waited for Zimmerman to come around the corner and then confronted him.

    Some would say that Martin lured him back there and waited. He knew he was being followed and ambushed him.

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    Re: Is he lying?

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    Martin knew he was being followed according to the girl he was talking to on the phone.

    Knowing that he was being followed, apparently Martin briskly walked behind the residence and waited for Zimmerman to come around the corner and then confronted him.

    Some would say that Martin lured him back there and waited. He knew he was being followed and ambushed him.
    talk about your wild speculation!!!!!
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    Re: Is he lying?

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    Has anyone thought about at which point in time Martin and Zimmerman got close enough to each other for a physical confrontation to occur?
    I don't see Zimmerman catching up to Martin, or cornering him.
    The only way I see this happening, is that Martin approached Zimmerman.
    I agree. Given that Zimmerman chased after Martin first I'd expect Martin to approach Zimmerman. When I was 17 that is what I would have done and I haven't changed. And if Zimmerman did anything physical to me there would be a fight. However, in a SYGL country I'd have to carry a gun. If I was being followed in a SYGL country by Zimmerman and I turned to assess and approach who was following me I'd have my gun in hand but hidden. How about anyone else? Remember, in a SYGL you are essentially required to carry a gun. The mistake that Martin made was not carrying a gun. That's the fairness of the SYGL, carry a gun and everything is fair. And the police have less to do.
    Last edited by OhIsee.Then; 03-28-12 at 03:20 PM. Reason: Add stuff about SYGL.

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    Re: Is he lying?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    'Way to boil down a complex situation into a single frame cartoon and ignore half the evidence, bravo.
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    Re: Is he lying?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    In a SYGL country you are not required to run; you're just required to carry a gun. Martin screwed up because he wasn't armed.
    In a nonSYGL country where I grew up if I was being followed as Martin was I'd confront him. If the follower did anything physical to me there would be a fight.
    Then you wouldn't be considered as "fearing for your life" either.
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    Re: Is he lying?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Which blows to hell any ridiculous claim that the kid confronted Z.

    No. It doesn't.

    The call with 911 from Zimmerman ended at 7:13pm.

    The shooting took place at 7:16 or 7:17.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Is he lying?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    But there was no interest in real self-defense by the police. No attempt to find out how the fight started.
    How do you know this? Please, present your evidence that the police did not attempt to find out how the fight started.


    With Zimmerman following Martin outside his property and taking a physically assertive actions,
    What physically assertive actions did you witness sir?
    carrying a gun, self-defense defense in court wouldn't work.
    People who kill others in self defense often do it with a gun. People who observed possible criminals to help and assist the police might want to carry a gun on them while doing so, in case the person they are observing attacks. WyTF Do you think security guards often carry guns (some don't I know, so don't derail)
    With their SYGL self-defense defense is not necessary as you will not even be arrested.
    I just freaking said in the post you responded to that this is NOT a SYG defense! Zimmerman's attorney also said this. Why are you still hung up on SYG!
    THIS IS NOT A STAND YOUR GROUND CASE
    An additional issue with the SYGL is: does it matter if Zimmerman started the physical confrontation between them although he was later loosing the fight (until Martin stopped). In this particular case the SYGL may support Zimmerman even if he started the fight he was loosing.
    See above.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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