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    Re: Is he lying?

    Quote Originally Posted by kenvin View Post
    Well let's hope a good neighborhood watch stops an evil Muslim teen next time. Self defense as they look like terrorists.
    The government has asked ALL citizens to report any suspicious activity that might be related to terrorism.

    Personally, I think all evil persons out to do evil should be stopped from doing so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    The government has asked ALL citizens to report any suspicious activity that might be related to terrorism.

    Personally, I think all evil persons out to do evil should be stopped from doing so.
    Well then if its your kid next time you will understand. Good for you.

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    Re: Is he lying?

    From what I have heard so far the police arrived on the scene within 60 seconds of the the shooting.
    The responding officer "heard the shot".
    With a little cold logic, Zimmerman had just finished a struggle for his life, he has a broken nose,
    and his head has been smacked into the sidewalk.
    The cops show up Zimmerman is standing over Treyvon's body.
    In that few moments, Zimmerman has the composure to think up a complete enough story
    to allow the police to release him after his statement.
    His made up story then parallels almost exactly with eye witness and ear witness testimony.
    Adrinilan is great in an emergency, but poor for problem solving.

    As to the police and evidence collected, we do not know what has been collected, tested, ect.. .
    The police will learn the true story from the gunshot residue on the clothing of Martin and Zimmerman.

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    Re: Is he lying?

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    From what I have heard so far the police arrived on the scene within 60 seconds of the the shooting.
    The responding officer "heard the shot".
    With a little cold logic, Zimmerman had just finished a struggle for his life, he has a broken nose,
    and his head has been smacked into the sidewalk.
    The cops show up Zimmerman is standing over Treyvon's body.
    In that few moments, Zimmerman has the composure to think up a complete enough story
    to allow the police to release him after his statement.
    His made up story then parallels almost exactly with eye witness and ear witness testimony.
    Adrinilan is great in an emergency, but poor for problem solving.

    As to the police and evidence collected, we do not know what has been collected, tested, ect.. .
    The police will learn the true story from the gunshot residue on the clothing of Martin and Zimmerman.
    How long was it between the police arrival when the had to take control of the situation, call emergency staff, etc. and coming to the point where the took a statement from Zimmerman. I've been at several incidents and the police have a lot to do. I've been asking this question of others but I don't have an answer.
    I have another question for you: If Martin was beating Zimmerman up does that give Zimmerman the right to shoot Martin?

    Also: I don't think they got Zimmerman's clothing, they just released him as the SYGL permits.
    Last edited by OhIsee.Then; 03-27-12 at 07:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    On the 911 call, Zimmerman says that Martin's coming over to his car.
    Yes, after Zimmer had been following him for how long?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Are you willing to do the same?
    Especially with all the misconceptions I pointed out to you?

    What you pointed out to MaggieD is known information that has no bearing on whether or not Zimmerman's action were legal.
    It doesn't matter if it was legal its still manslaughter since Martin did not approach him until after he had been followed for a long time. Under the "stand your ground law" Martins approach is justifed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    I have another question for you: If Martin was beating Zimmerman up does that give Zimmerman the right to shoot Martin?
    Yes, if the assault is unprovoked. In this particular though, the case can be legitimately made that Martin felt threatened. The police should have and might be able to still do a proper forensic analysis to determine who stared the fight.

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    Re: Is he lying?

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    It doesn't matter if it was legal its still manslaughter since Martin did not approach him until after he had been followed for a long time. Under the "stand your ground law" Martins approach is justifed.
    Followed for a long time? lol
    You realize that this happened over a very short time period, right?
    It is not manslaughter.
    Zimmerman was not in the wrong for following. He just wasn't.
    Trayvon was in the wrong for acting out violently.
    Trayvon's thoughts and feelings, have no bearing on Zimmerman's actions.
    Zimmerman feared for his life and acted accordingly within the confines of the law.



    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    Yes, if the assault is unprovoked. In this particular though, the case can be legitimately made that Martin felt threatened. The police should have and might be able to still do a proper forensic analysis to determine who stared the fight.
    It does not mater if Trayvon felt threatened.
    This is not about what he felt.
    It is about Zimmerman's actions and if they fall with in the confines of the law.

    What Trayvon thought or felt has no bearing on what charge Zimmermon could receive. None.

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    Re: Is he lying?

    I find it very hard to believe that Zimmerman got his ass handed to him by a 13 year old kid, which makes this even a more horrible crime because zimmerman knew he shot a child when he got a close look at him. Whatever the case may be, Florida knows exactly what their doing and Zimmerman has a beast attorney, he knows very well what he's doing. Anyone notice how the first picture of zimmerman looked like a mug shot? Now he's dressed in a suit with a shaved head smiling with a bible in his hand? They are going to paint Zimmerman as the victim, and it probably will work. Why else would they release records of the boy being caught with marijuana shake in his back pack? What the hell does that have to do with him being shot for wearing a hoodie? is it to make it appear that he was engaging in a crime? I dont know about anyone else, but the last thing someone is thinking about when high on weed is looking for a crime, unless they are out of money looking to rob a white castle.

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    Re: Is he lying?

    Quote Originally Posted by barbarian_style View Post
    You can stand on your race card all you want, so here you go if they did not do their job due to race then they are incompetent.
    From Wiki:
    Incompetent person (legal), person not of sound mind or mentally impaired, unable to make decision for himself or herself.
    So is a police officer that is doing his job carefully, following the SYGL to the T, and supporting the culture of the his environment being incompetent? I think not. Remember what his culture requires. Not your's, his.
    Last edited by OhIsee.Then; 03-27-12 at 08:42 PM.

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    Re: Is he lying?

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
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    Trayvon was in the wrong for acting out violently.
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    Not if Zimmerman physically did something to Martin that could be considered minor assault.
    I still haven't seen anything that indicates that Zimmerman didn't do anything to Martin first.
    This is critical in a SYGL country.

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    Re: Is he lying?

    Quote Originally Posted by SypherAL View Post
    by a 13 year old kid,
    Until you get the information correct...

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