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    Re: If Zimmerman took an independent polygraph test...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    You believe what you see on those shows? Seriously?

    I don't know about the other two, but from what I've seen of Steve Wilkos, most of it is pretty obviously staged. You'd have to be pretty stupid to think that anything on that show reflects anything having to do with actual reality. Lacking any solid evidence to the contrary, I would have to assume that the other two shows you mention are the same.
    It's not that easy, imo, to call it. Steve Wilkos is iffy, but shows like Judge Kevin Ross and Maury routinely use polygraph tests. Iirc, Dr, Phil, the Jeremy Kyle show, and quite a few others use them as well. If it's all staged, and unreliable, then we'd have to admit that none of these shows should be using them because people could have their lives ruined. If not even polygraph tests used by reputable judges should be admitted, then perhaps none should be used at all. That leaves the decision hanging by whatever the jury decides, and they're aren't always right, either.

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    Re: If Zimmerman took an independent polygraph test...

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    It's not that easy, imo, to call it. Steve Wilkos is iffy, but shows like Judge Kevin Ross and Maury routinely use polygraph tests. Iirc, Dr, Phil, the Jeremy Kyle show, and quite a few others use them as well. If it's all staged, and unreliable, then we'd have to admit that none of these shows should be using them because people could have their lives ruined. If not even polygraph tests used by reputable judges should be admitted, then perhaps none should be used at all. That leaves the decision hanging by whatever the jury decides, and they're aren't always right, either.
    You seem to have missed my point.

    You're citing TV shows in which people appear with fictional dramas, staged for entertainment purposes, and assuming that anything that you see on these shows with regard to these dramas, or how they are allegedly explored and resolved, has anything to do with how anything works in reality. That polygraphs appear to work in such a fictitious setting, with reliable results, is not any kind of evidence that they work nearly so well in actual use. You might as well cite the story of Peter Pan as evidence that fairies are real.

    You seem to be failing to understand the difference between the reality in which we all live and function, and obviously-fictional TV shows created strictly for entertainment purposes.
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    Re: If Zimmerman took an independent polygraph test...

    The polygraph is pseudoscience and should be illegal to use for anything other than a parlor trick. There is no such thing as a machine that can detect lies or truth.

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    Re: If Zimmerman took an independent polygraph test...

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    The polygraph is pseudoscience and should be illegal to use for anything other than a parlor trick. There is no such thing as a machine that can detect lies or truth.
    The fact that many people still refer to it as a "lie detector" test is telling at how many are still conned regarding it's usefulness and accuracy.

    I like your 'parlor trick' phrasing, btw.

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    Re: If Zimmerman took an independent polygraph test...

    Zimmerman did take one, his lawyers suggested it and * donations paid for it, and he failed. I strongly suspect that his lawyers wouldn't have been nearly so quiet about it if he's passed. ( *donations from __Neo-Nazi friends of George Zimmerman__ and from innocent people who donated to Zimmerman in response to fake news stories, manufactured and circulated by __Neo-Nazi friends of George Zimmerman__, that Trayvon Martin had been found to have a criminal past, fake news stories that guns and drugs were found in Trayvon Martin's car ~ Trayvon was indeed barely old enough to have a driver's permit, but he didn't have a car~ and fake news stories that a star witness, his identity kept secret for reasons of his safety, backs up Zimmerman's story ~ the police tried very hard to find the star witness, and did track down the source of his stories, Zimmerman himself~ )
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    Re: If Zimmerman took an independent polygraph test...

    If only Zimmerman was an accomplished necromancer...

    Then no one would be the wiser, at least for a bit.


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    Re: If Zimmerman took an independent polygraph test...

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanWoman76 View Post
    Zimmerman did take one, his lawyers suggested it and * donations paid for it, and he failed. I strongly suspect that his lawyers wouldn't have been nearly so quiet about it if he's passed. ( *donations from __Neo-Nazi friends of George Zimmerman__ and from innocent people who donated to Zimmerman in response to fake news stories, manufactured and circulated by __Neo-Nazi friends of George Zimmerman__, that Trayvon Martin had been found to have a criminal past, fake news stories that guns and drugs were found in Trayvon Martin's car ~ Trayvon was indeed barely old enough to have a driver's permit, but he didn't have a car~ and fake news stories that a star witness, his identity kept secret for reasons of his safety, backs up Zimmerman's story ~ the police tried very hard to find the star witness, and did track down the source of his stories, Zimmerman himself~ )
    Oh, no doubt. Since so many naively believe polygraphs are somehow God's word itself, the defense was probably hoping he'd pass so they could trumpet it from the heavens. That's a strong strategy... providing it works out the way intended.
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