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  • Not full access, but an individual should be able to know.

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    Should names on the "no-fly" list be public?

    Should names on the "no-fly" list be public?

    Or, if not public, should an individual be able to check at any time to see if they are on it?

    If 'no' to either question, what would be good reason to deny?

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    Re: Should names on the "no-fly" list be public?

    I picked this. "Not full access, but an individual should be able to know". Preferably the individual should be notified that they are on a no-fly list so that if the individual feels that they were wrongly placed on the list they can fight it and not find out when they go purchase a plan ticket.
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    Re: Should names on the "no-fly" list be public?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Should names on the "no-fly" list be public?

    Or, if not public, should an individual be able to check at any time to see if they are on it?

    If 'no' to either question, what would be good reason to deny?
    Anyone on it should be notified that they are on it. Otherwise, no access. Of course, the ideal would be to get rid of this list all together.
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    Re: Should names on the "no-fly" list be public?

    I'd think that if a man was on a "no-fly" list that he would also be an undesirable....
    Naturally, this has to be done correctly and legalilly...no errors...if this cannot be done, then the whole thing should be scrapped.
    He does not have to know this, he should not even be here if "undesirable".

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    Re: Should names on the "no-fly" list be public?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Should names on the "no-fly" list be public?

    Or, if not public, should an individual be able to check at any time to see if they are on it?

    If 'no' to either question, what would be good reason to deny?
    My gut reaction is "No, it should not be made public." And "No, one shouldn't be able to check at any time to see if they're on it."

    I think that some people on the No-Fly list are wanted. One of the ways we might be able to catch them is by their trying to fly and being taken into custody.
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    Re: Should names on the "no-fly" list be public?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    I'd think that if a man was on a "no-fly" list that he would also be an undesirable....
    Naturally, this has to be done correctly and legalilly...no errors...if this cannot be done, then the whole thing should be scrapped.
    He does not have to know this, he should not even be here if "undesirable".
    The question presumed American citizens on the list. I should have clarified.

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    Re: Should names on the "no-fly" list be public?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    My gut reaction is "No, it should not be made public." And "No, one shouldn't be able to check at any time to see if they're on it."

    I think that some people on the No-Fly list are wanted. One of the ways we might be able to catch them is by their trying to fly and being taken into custody.
    To me, this sounds like a whole lot of "guilty until proven innocent". I'm just not into dicking with a large group of people just on the off chance that some of them will be wanted for something else.

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    Re: Should names on the "no-fly" list be public?

    I assume you're thinking about the various individuals who are on the "no-fly list" but have not done/cannot do anything to warrant such.

    I’d have to say, somewhat reluctantly, that it should stay as-is.

    Firstly, because (as I understand it) it potentially alerts law enforcement to someone who needs to be caught.
    Secondly, because if some of the people on it knew they were on it, they would also know that they were under suspicion for something.

    I would say that the entity who controls this list needs to be more careful/specific about its “no-fly” targets.
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    Re: Should names on the "no-fly" list be public?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I assume you're thinking about the various individuals who are on the "no-fly list" but have not done/cannot do anything to warrant such.

    I’d have to say, somewhat reluctantly, that it should stay as-is.

    Firstly, because (as I understand it) it potentially alerts law enforcement to someone who needs to be caught.
    Secondly, because if some of the people on it knew they were on it, they would also know that they were under suspicion for something.

    I would say that the entity who controls this list needs to be more careful/specific about its “no-fly” targets.
    Correct, I am talking about individuals who are on the list but haven't done anything.

    I won't dismiss the point about people who are under suspicion for something, but... once a person tries to fly, and is denied, then at that point the cat is out of the bag and they know. Seems to me that, at the very least, once a person knows then they should have a legitimate shot to clear their name from the list... and to be told that they have been cleared (or not).

    Many of these people are simply denied flying, btw, and not taken into custody for anything, so to me the argument that we might catch criminals for something else is negligible.

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    Re: Should names on the "no-fly" list be public?

    It should be public if it was used properly. If it was a "this guy is wanted for major crimes and is a flight risk", make it public. Having said that, you should see things that will put you on such a list. The FAA and TSA are beyond inept. Were they legit, sure.

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