View Poll Results: Do you have friends of other races

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  • I tend to only befriend people the same race as I, on a subconcious level

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  • I tend to befriend people of my on race on an unsubconcious level

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  • I have friends of all races that I regulary hang out with

    8 88.89%
  • I have no desire to have friendships with other races

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  • I don't set out not to have friends of other races, but the cards tend to fall that way

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Thread: How common is REAL racial integration?

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    Re: How common is REAL racial integration?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    This entire thread is a

    Friend argument - RationalWiki
    It is commonly used to clear and absolve oneself from suspicion of racism, xenophobia or other kinds of prejudice. It is a particular form of the "Not prejudiced, but..." statement.
    Nice of you to be so synical, but since nobody was accusing me of being racist, the definition doesn't fit, nor was it the premise for starting this thread. If you must know, it was birthed from all the Zimmerman threads, however I did not want to include that story b/c I don't want this thread derailed. There are already 10 threads about that so let's try not to go there. Now, what were you accusing me of again?

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    Re: How common is REAL racial integration?

    I don't see how you don't see that ANY poll is directed at a society. It asks questions to individuals but its conclusion comes from the collective response. That is how EVERY POLL THAT HAS EVER EXISTED works.

    So the fact that you don't know how it is possible that I could have interpreted that way leads me to believe that you didn't realize that this thread was a poll.

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    Re: How common is REAL racial integration?

    Quote Originally Posted by Res Cogitans View Post
    I don't see how you don't see that ANY poll is directed at a society. It asks questions to individuals but its conclusion comes from the collective response. That is how EVERY POLL THAT HAS EVER EXISTED works.

    So the fact that you don't know how it is possible that I could have interpreted that way leads me to believe that you didn't realize that this thread was a poll.
    The poll asked readers about their individual behavior, and yet you chose to interpret it as being about society at large for reasons I can't fathom. Now you're trying to backpedal by arguing about the nature of polls in general.

    Good luck with that.
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    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: How common is REAL racial integration?

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    Nice of you to be so synical, but since nobody was accusing me of being racist, the definition doesn't fit, nor was it the premise for starting this thread. If you must know, it was birthed from all the Zimmerman threads, however I did not want to include that story b/c I don't want this thread derailed. There are already 10 threads about that so let's try not to go there. Now, what were you accusing me of again?
    It fits perfectly. You ask us if we're integrated, the evidence of our integration being our friendships and other social bonds with people different from us. You're asking us if we have any (fill in the blank) friends. That's asking us if we can make the Friend Argument -- "I'm integrated because I have (fill in the blank) friends."
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    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: How common is REAL racial integration?

    what you can't fathom is your own problem. Every poll seeks to provide a concluson about society. That is WHY they are polls. If you don't get it, that's your thing. I'm not backpedaling at all. And this entire thread is NOT a friend argument. Period.

    Not to mention the fact that if you interpret your response to mean "I have friends of many different backgrounds, therefore I'm integrated." You are just stating a definition. You are saying, the way I define "Being integrated" is having many friends of different backrounds. Depending on who you ask, that would either be an argument by definition or simply a tautology. But neither of those would qualify as the friend argument.
    Last edited by Res Cogitans; 03-24-12 at 05:35 PM.

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    Re: How common is REAL racial integration?

    The question didn't ask us about society, which is how you interpreted it. It asked us a question about ourselves. The wording was very clear. Reading comprehension is your friend.
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    Re: How common is REAL racial integration?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    The poll asked readers about their individual behavior, and yet you chose to interpret it as being about society at large for reasons I can't fathom. Now you're trying to backpedal by arguing about the nature of polls in general.

    Good luck with that.
    I take it you don't have friends in the 'other' category, and that's why you are defensive/accusatory? If you only have [insert race friends] it's nothing to be ashamed about. As you see the poll doesn't even ellude to racism if you don't. Nobody is judging anyone if they only have friends of their kind', so what's your beef?
    Stop making this poll deeper than it is.

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    Re: How common is REAL racial integration?

    Race is a complete non-issue to me, I pay no attention to it whatsoever. I make friends based on personality and interests, not on skin color, gender or sexual preference, etc. It just doesn't matter.
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    Re: How common is REAL racial integration?

    I see that you've given up. Every poll is directed at a society. Every poll takes a premise which is provided by an individual and makes a conclusion about a society on the basis of individual responses.

    Take a logic class and then get back to me.
    Last edited by Res Cogitans; 03-24-12 at 05:46 PM.

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    Re: How common is REAL racial integration?

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    I take it you don't have friends in the 'other' category, and that's why you are defensive/accusatory?
    I take it you missed my initial response. In any case, my tone is due to the fact that the entire premise of this thread invites the invocation of a fallacy which, when employed during other discussions, would get the poster laughed out of the thread.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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