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    Re: Being the right and the wrong race

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    I wonder if this would be an issue if Obama were white and said a gunned-down white kid looked like he could have been his son.

    Zimmerman is not "the wrong race." There is significant evidence that the investigation was bungled and that Zimmerman had motives other than self-defense for shooting Martin. The fact that he is not getting Obama's sympathy when the motives of him killing a 17-year-old are so heavily in question is not surprising. He shouldn't be.

    This is a comment that would get no attention whatsoever if Obama were white. Obama's meaning of it is probably no more insidious than it would be if he had said it as a white man.
    The media would have gone nuts if Obama and Martin were both white and he had called for the Justice Department to involve because Martin looked like his son as a black Zimmerman didn't.

    The President's statement was pure racism.

    We also know that although Zimmerman and his family too both had to move out of their houses due to death threats and the President and his Justice Department are perfectly agreeable to death threats against them.

    To use your example, if both Martin and Zimmerman were African-American, do you think the President or anyone would give a damn?

    This is the ultimate playing the race card and racism by the President and the media.

    What matters most to me in individual freedom and equality in relation to the government. Accordingly, I just switched from going to vote for Obama because of rights Republicans want to take away - but now would vote for any of the Republicans, even Ron Paul, over Obama.

    A racist president deliberately putting someone in an unfair trial situation risking him being imprisoned or even executed because we have a racist president playing race politics is 100% outrageous - and no greater denial of equality and justice possible. But, then, come to think of it, he's the president that took to himself the power to order any American summarily assasinated if determined an enemy of the state. He declared Zimmerman an enemy of his race.
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    Re: Being the right and the wrong race

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    The media would have gone nuts if Obama and Martin were both white and he had called for the Justice Department to involve because Martin looked like his son as a black Zimmerman didn't.

    The President's statement was pure racism.

    We also know that although Zimmerman and his family too both had to move out of their houses due to death threats and the President and his Justice Department are perfectly agreeable to death threats against them.

    To use your example, if both Martin and Zimmerman were African-American, do you think the President or anyone would give a damn?

    This the ultimate playing the race card and racism by the President and the media.
    If GW had said it about a white kid, would anyone have said, "See? He's playing the race card."? There is racism flying around this issue, but it's not coming from Obama. Plenty of it on DP atm.
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    Re: Being the right and the wrong race

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    If GW had said it about a white kid, would anyone have said, "See? He's playing the race card."? There is racism flying around this issue, but it's not coming from Obama. Plenty of it on DP atm.
    Good point and the answer is "no".

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    Re: Being the right and the wrong race

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    If a church was bombed and Obama said in an empathetic manner, "That could have been my church," would you have a problem with that?
    No. If there had been been 16,000+ church bombing per year and he picked one specific bombing saying he was doing so because the people in THAT church looks like him, yes.

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    Re: Being the right and the wrong race

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    If GW had said it about a white kid, would anyone have said, "See? He's playing the race card."? There is racism flying around this issue, but it's not coming from Obama. Plenty of it on DP atm.
    IF GW went before the whole nation and said he was ordering a Justice Department investigation into a specific homicide because the person killed is white like he is, the media would have gone absolutely ballistic.

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    Re: Being the right and the wrong race

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    IF GW went before the whole nation and said he was ordering a Justice Department investigation into a specific homicide because the person killed is white like he is, the media would have gone absolutely ballistic.
    Of course they would and if Obama does the same thing, they'll go ballistic for that as well.

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    Re: Being the right and the wrong race

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    No. If there had been been 16,000+ church bombing per year and he picked one specific bombing saying he was doing so because the people in THAT church looks like him, yes.
    There haven't been 16,000+ cases like either, so whatever point you're trying to make isn't happening.

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    Re: Being the right and the wrong race

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    So you are shocked huh. I suppose you don't think obama and dems used the Gifford shooting for politics either, damn man.
    I don't know anything about "Gifford." I do know in this case the comment is full of **** and based on just as much hyperbolic bull****.
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    Re: Being the right and the wrong race

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    IF GW went before the whole nation and said he was ordering a Justice Department investigation into a specific homicide because the person killed is white like he is, the media would have gone absolutely ballistic.
    This is not what Obama said. Not even close.
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    Re: Being the right and the wrong race

    I voted other. The president didn't inject race into the issue, he conveyed a personal connection with the victim in this horrible tragedy, and I commend him for the empathy he showed.

    You are first I've heard that tried to make the President's remarks racially motivated. I question more the motivations of those that try to paint his remarks as racially oriented.
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