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  • Everything should be permitted that doesn't "harm others"

    32 68.09%
  • We should have some societal standards based on morals

    10 21.28%
  • We should have more standards than what we have now

    4 8.51%
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    Moral question: Should we permit everything that doesn't "harm others"?

    Moral question: Should we permit everything that doesn't "harm others"? If something doesn't "harm others" should it be legal and permitted? Should we have societal standards? Should we have some legal morals? Do people have a right to do all things they wish so long as others aren't harmed?
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    Re: Moral question: Should we permit everything that doesn't "harm others"?

    Can you give me an example of something that does no harm to others, but that is, or you think should be illegal?

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    Re: Moral question: Should we permit everything that doesn't "harm others"?

    What constitutes harm to others is debatable, but if we are ignoring externalities, I don't see a single good reason why a person should not be in control of their own life. The duty of the government is not to save us from ourselves.
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    Re: Moral question: Should we permit everything that doesn't "harm others"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Can you give me an example of something that does no harm to others, but that is, or you think should be illegal?
    Most things people would debate are currently illegal drug use, forms of sex, addictions to substances, and other things.

    I can't really give you an example of that, because I'm not of the persuasion that just because something doesn't "harm others" doesn't mean it should be legal or permitted.
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    Re: Moral question: Should we permit everything that doesn't "harm others"?

    Sure, as long as an activity isn't physically harming another human being directly, how "perverse" it is in some people's estimation isn't terribly important. At least when it comes to questions of legality.

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    Re: Moral question: Should we permit everything that doesn't "harm others"?

    The government has no business in stopping people from doing something if it doesn't harm anyone. Plain, and simple.

    The fact that the government puts people in jail for weed is despicable to me.
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    Re: Moral question: Should we permit everything that doesn't "harm others"?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Moral question: Should we permit everything that doesn't "harm others"? If something doesn't "harm others" should it be legal and permitted? Should we have societal standards? Should we have some legal morals? Do people have a right to do all things they wish so long as others aren't harmed?
    You seem to think it is not moral (or immoral) to support individual freedom.

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    Re: Moral question: Should we permit everything that doesn't "harm others"?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Moral question: Should we permit everything that doesn't "harm others"? If something doesn't "harm others" should it be legal and permitted? Should we have societal standards? Should we have some legal morals? Do people have a right to do all things they wish so long as others aren't harmed?
    I certainly believe that we should have societal and moral standards -- so I do believe in some restrictions on people. I do not, however, believe that the proper enforcement mechanism of such standards is necessarily the government (sometimes it is, usually its not). Societies/families/people can police themselves without the need of government enforcement much better than we give them credit for.

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    Re: Moral question: Should we permit everything that doesn't "harm others"?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Moral question: Should we permit everything that doesn't "harm others"? If something doesn't "harm others" should it be legal and permitted? Should we have societal standards? Should we have some legal morals? Do people have a right to do all things they wish so long as others aren't harmed?
    I'm sure there are always exceptions which prove the rule. But I would say that in general one should be free to do as they like so long as they do not infringe upon the rights of others in the process. Does it mean that you couldn’t have “moral” standards? No, but it would mean that if you want those exceptions, you’re going to have to demonstrate why they should be excluded from the overall rule.
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    Re: Moral question: Should we permit everything that doesn't "harm others"?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Most things people would debate are currently illegal drug use, forms of sex, addictions to substances, and other things.

    I can't really give you an example of that, because I'm not of the persuasion that just because something doesn't "harm others" doesn't mean it should be legal or permitted.
    Illegal drug use is harmful to others. Prostitution is harmful to others. Addiction to substances is harmful to others. I thought you probably meant those kinds of so-called victimless crimes. They are not victimless.
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