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Should women be allowed to serve in combat roles in the military?

Should women be allowed in combat roles in military?

  • Yes

    Votes: 45 68.2%

  • No

    Votes: 14 21.2%

  • IDK/other

    Votes: 7 10.6%
  • Total voters
    66
Absolutely. Equality requires that everyone be able to do the same general things. If they can shoot, let them be on the front lines. It's unfair to expect equality and then not be willing to put your backside on the line.
 
earthworm said:
I say, lets do away with the military as it is now.
Wars are soon to be a thing of the past.
Peace should be a thing of NOW, more so than the future.
No more combat, but building, creating, improving, working with people rather than against them.
For this purpose woman is as much a necessity as man.
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Oh good heavens - if we've had war since the dawn of man why on earth do you think it's going to end anytimes soon? Even if we managed to become purely egalitarian we still wouldn't have complete mutual respect worldwide - or - more importantly - others worldwide wouldn't have mutual respect for us, either. Just the opposite: others believe in patriarchal 'wisdom' so fervently they'll kill their own countrymen in protest of our growing egalitarian views.
 
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If they can meet the established mental and physical requirements for our soldiers, I don't see why not. But no one gets special privilege.
 
earthworm said:
I say, lets do away with the military as it is now.
Wars are soon to be a thing of the past.
Peace should be a thing of NOW, more so than the future.
No more combat, but building, creating, improving, working with people rather than against them.
For this purpose woman is as much a necessity as man.
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YOu forgot all the nations of the world gathering around a big campfire with guitars singing Kumbaya.
 
Aunt Spiker said:
Does it take maturity or pure idiocity to throw yourself in the middle of a futile struggle for life concerning a cause that's moot?
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If I follow, I don't think many signed up with conflicts like Iraq in mind. Most, I believe, sign up to do serve. And secondarly for the money and opportunity to change their lives. Speaking for myself, VN still fresh in our collective memories, I was 18 and unsure of my future. I had done some construction work, and had a plumer who wanted to make me an apprentice. I wasn't eager to take that job. SO, when I went down to the recruiter, somethign I did only to try and stop a friend from joining, I ended up enlisting on the spur of the moment. I saw a future that looked brighter (though not as bright as it sounded), had always believed in my country, loved the song the Green Berets song. Never did I consider myself a fan of needless wars.

I will also ad this. During my time, I found soldiers, some with pictures of dead VC, them holding heads up and taking pictures, who concerned me. I wasn't like them at all. I also met and admire people like Warrant Officer Preist who was reasonable, smart, insightful, and professional. He was the model I would have chosen. He understood the need for a military, but not for stupid,mindless, reckless wars or for putitng brothers in arms in danger needlessly. he'd follow orders, but would stand for what was right, always following the rules and accepting the consequences. Best role model for a human being I've ever known.

Next, I have to mention, was 1st Sargent Accosta who taught me that as people we want hard work. We too often fool ourselves nto believing we want it easy. He swore he'd work us hard, but that we'd think him for it. He was correct.

I know I rambled a bit here, but was in a reminiscing mood. But I do hope I answered you adequately.
 
beerftw said:
question am i the only one who imagines navy prides words in popeyes voice,becase for me it makes it easier to read.
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I hate to bust your bubble but growing up in the mountains of Pa I kind of have a laid back southern drawl even though I am not from the South.
 
molten_dragon said:
If we're going to use this logic, then you should probably stay silent on this matter as well, since you are not, nor have you presumably ever been a woman, so you don't have the life experience to know what you're talking about.
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Again my left wing friend I don't have to experience sticking my hand in a fire to know it will burn me.............Serving on 6 navy ships I know quite a bit about what goes on aboard thm.
 
Navy Pride said:
Again my left wing friend I don't have to experience sticking my hand in a fire to know it will burn me.............Serving on 6 navy ships I know quite a bit about what goes on aboard thm.
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So why are you questioning other people's experience? You can't have it both ways.
 
Redress said:
So why are you questioning other people's experience? You can't have it both ways.
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No, no no. You've got it all wrong. His experience is the correct and true experience, therefore everyone else must be full of ****.
 
kenvin said:
Cause how many push UPS one can do or how fast you run a mile have little value in modern warfare. Women can kill as well as men with our modern technology.
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If we're talking about running a Bradley's guns or operating a combat drone or driving a tank, sure.

Infantry is a different ballgame. It isn't just a matter of being a good shot.

Infantry's #1 job description is "must be able to suffer great physical/environmental hardships and remain functional", followed by "must be able to hump ungodly amounts of gear across terrain goats would consider rough".

Not all healthy young men qualify for infantry, either.

Some women can qual #1, but far fewer can qual #2. As far as I'm concerned those who CAN should be able to be in those units... but if everyone in Company C is expected to be able to hump 108 pounds of gear afoot across mountainous terrain, I can see a problem if a woman is allowed in the unit and the most she can hump is 65 lbs. Means someone else has to carry nearly half her gear.... that would be a problem.

Women in combat, yes....but only if they meet the same standards for that particular unit type as the men. JMO.
 
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It depends on what kind of combat role. If it's a Navy Seal team where you must have a lot of physical power, then perhaps not since women are generally physically weaker than men.
 
Goshin said:
Women in combat, yes....but only if they meet the same standards for that particular unit type as the men. JMO.
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That's it in a nutshell. I really don't get how anyone could come to a different conclusion. I also think it's ridiculous that apparently some military organizations are setting up different (i.e. lower) standards for women in their organizations. That's totally wrongheaded and potentially very dangerous.
 
Redress said:
So why are you questioning other people's experience? You can't have it both ways.
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Its easy for someone who has no clue about serving in combat to say hell yeah, let them serve......If they had been there they might have a different opinion.
 
Navy Pride said:
Again my left wing friend I don't have to experience sticking my hand in a fire to know it will burn me.............Serving on 6 navy ships I know quite a bit about what goes on aboard thm.
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That doesn't mean it HAS to go on, just that it has gone on in the past. Things can and often should change.
 
Redress said:
So why are you questioning other people's experience? You can't have it both ways.
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I am not questioning anyone experience, I am asking if they have experienced combat.I don't question your combat experience........I believe you were on a carrier in the mideast during the first gulf war...I am questioning the perople like Thunder and Aderleth who never served in combat and never served at all....
 
Cephus said:
That doesn't mean it HAS to go on, just that it has gone on in the past. Things can and often should change.
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Its a dangerous place aboard ship.........There are enough distractions already.........You don't have to add another.......
 
Actually this poll should only include people who served in the military in combat........People that have not experienced that are clueless in what its like.........You just might get a different result..........
 
Navy Pride said:
Its a dangerous place aboard ship.........There are enough distractions already.........You don't have to add another.......
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May be the men need to grow up and stop being drooling idiots? I'm sure they have better things to do with their testosterone-soaked lives than drool over their shipmates, don't they?
 
Navy Pride said:
Actually this poll should only include people who served in the military in combat........People that have not experienced that are clueless in what its like.........You just might get a different result..........
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Maybe it's the people who have been involved who made it that way in the first place?
 
Cephus said:
May be the men need to grow up and stop being drooling idiots? I'm sure they have better things to do with their testosterone-soaked lives than drool over their shipmates, don't they?
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You forget it takes two to tango.............Men and women mix it the nature of the beast..........No matter how hard you try you will never stop it..........Career service people have been busted........

When I was stationed at Pearl Harbor the barracks there had the men on one floor and the women on another with a skinny little fire watch to keep them apart............Well there was a YN3 female who was prostituting for money and got caught.........She went to Captains mast and was busted to SN and fined $,1000 dollars or one moths pay.........On the way out of the courtroom she laughed and told one of her friends........Hell I can make that grand up in one night...........
 
Navy Pride said:
Its easy for someone who has no clue about serving in combat to say hell yeah, let them serve......If they had been there they might have a different opinion.
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But you just said that you did not need experience to know. So why are you exempt from the requirement you are trying to place on others?
 
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