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    Re: Should women be allowed to serve in combat roles in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    simple question.......If your in a foxhole getting ready to go into hand to hand combat who do you want to have your back a 6'2" 200 lb guy or a 5' 100 lb woman?
    Average height of a woman in the US is 5'4 1/2" : http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr010.pdf

    Average height of a woman in the army or marines is probably taller.

    Average height of a man is 5'10".

    Now this makes one wonder why you selected a below average woman and an above average man.
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    Re: Should women be allowed to serve in combat roles in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Average height of a woman in the US is 5'4 1/2" : http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr010.pdf

    Average height of a woman in the army or marines is probably taller.

    Average height of a man is 5'10".

    Now this makes one wonder why you selected a below average woman and an above average man.
    exactly what I said earlier, its called dishonesty and he was trying to stack the deck, he failed miserably as the objective people here didnt buy it
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    Re: Should women be allowed to serve in combat roles in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefgator View Post
    As I have said in another of these threads:

    Just before I retired last year, I was Intimately involved in the manning and training of the US Navy rescue crewman pipeline. There was a huge push to get more females in the field. In 5 years we were able to get THREE through the schools (27 months total) and then get fully qualified in the fleet... THREE... Over a 99% attrition rate. Why? Because, no matter how motivated, mature, and educated these fine Sailors were, the overwhelming majority of them could not meet the strength requirements.

    This aligns with what Navy Pride said about women on a DC party. And as I said go him, there are exceptions. Opening the MOS to women is the right thing to do. But don't expect a flood of women running to 11bravo school... And when they do, don't expect a ton to pass it....
    I have been retired for a long time but I did work for NAVSEA for 25 years after retiring so I kept pretty with Naval affairs.......Still get the Navy times..and when I was on active duty we had very few women aboard destroyers, cruisers or subs.........I feel we have enough problems aboard ship already without adding women to the mix........Maybe that makes me a sexist I don't know.....I don't think the military should be used for social experimentation and that is what the left is trying to do.....I know a lot of chiefs still on active duty that feel the same way but its not politically correct to say so.......


    Oh and I know I must getting old because I was eating lunch at the Naval Hospital Bremerton the other day and a pregnant CPO came through the line............I was with a fellow Chief and he said I never thought I would see a pregnant chief.....
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    Re: Should women be allowed to serve in combat roles in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    No they are not but most men are a foot taller and outweigh their counterpart women by at least 60 lbs..........I would love to get you aboard ship on a 3"50 gun mount as a first loader manning those 3" 50 projectiles or on a all hands ammunition loading party handling 5" 38 projectiles, I bet they would kick your ass........

    Talk about a grown man crying.......
    Wrong again. The average difference in height is 5 1/2 inches. You should know better than to make up statistics.

    The average difference in weight is 26 pounds: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/ad/ad347.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I have been retired for a long time but I did work for NAVSEA for 25 years after retiring so I kept pretty with Naval affairs.......Still get the Navy times..and when I was on active duty we had very few women aboard destroyers, cruisers or subs.........I feel we have enough problems aboard ship already without adding women to the mix........Maybe that makes me a sexist I don't know.....I don't think the military should be used for social experimentation and that is what the left is trying to do.....I know a lot of chiefs still on active duty that feel the same way but its not politically correct to say so.......
    So only straight white men should fight in the military? That doesn't seem like a good policy anymore.

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    Re: Should women be allowed to serve in combat roles in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Average height of a woman in the US is 5'4 1/2" : http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr010.pdf

    Average height of a woman in the army or marines is probably taller.

    Average height of a man is 5'10".

    Now this makes one wonder why you selected a below average woman and an above average man.
    Is that pregant? I wonder why you did not give their weights?
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    Re: Should women be allowed to serve in combat roles in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Is that pregant? I wonder why you did not give their weights?
    I did in a later post. For reference, the average weight of a woman in the US is 164 pounds, men is 190 pounds.
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    Re: Should women be allowed to serve in combat roles in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Wrong again. The average difference in height is 5 1/2 inches. You should know better than to make up statistics.

    The average difference in weight is 26 pounds: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/ad/ad347.pdf

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    Horse**** I don't care what your survey says I see them every day and a lot of Navy women barely make 5' 110 lbs and most men are at least 6'..........
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    Re: Should women be allowed to serve in combat roles in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I did in a later post. For reference, the average weight of a woman in the US is 164 pounds, men is 190 pounds.
    Redress I don't even know a woman who weighs 164.......
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    Re: Should women be allowed to serve in combat roles in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Horse**** I don't care what your survey says I see them every day and a lot of Navy women barely make 5' 110 lbs and most men are at least 6'..........
    Right, when confronted with facts, and documented facts(not a survey, but a study by the CDC) at that, you just say you don't beleive it, prefering your own made up nonsense. Excellent debate tactic, wonder how it will work for you.
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