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    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That may be, or not. As I can't answer that specifically. But, when given a task, a mission to accomplish, are you of the mind that there is only one way to accomplish it?
    I jave no idea what your asking. Please use spiific example.

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    Re: Should women be allowed to serve in combat roles in the military?

    Not only should they be able to freely join the military and go into combat, they should also be eligible for the draft if it ever comes again. We are all equal and the same rules should apply in all aspects of life.
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    Re: Should women be allowed to serve in combat roles in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Justice For All View Post
    Not only should they be able to freely join the military and go into combat, they should also be eligible for the draft if it ever comes again. We are all equal and the same rules should apply in all aspects of life.
    When it comes to sports and the military we are most definitely not equal. If this were the case no WBA would need to exist. We are physically and mentally different because nature made us that way.
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    Re: Should women be allowed to serve in combat roles in the military?

    Not even all men are physically and mentally equal to other male counter parts, I'm talking more or less about capable physically fit and mentally fit women who are drafted. The military will still have it's standards to be a soldier.
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    Re: Should women be allowed to serve in combat roles in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Justice For All View Post
    Not even all men are physically and mentally equal to other male counter parts, I'm talking more or less about capable physically fit and mentally fit women who are drafted. The military will still have it's standards to be a soldier.
    No one said they were all able? The problem is so few could do it, it is not worth the affect it would have on unit cohesion etc...

    BRITISH STUDY FINDS FEMALE SOLDIERS “TOO WEAK” FOR LAND COMBAT
    1/14/2002 12:58:35 PM

    ...Negative findings in the Combat Effectiveness Gender Study are even more significant in view of the fact that test exercises reportedly had been so diluted and watered down that they amounted to little more than "aggressive camping." (Electronic Telegraph, Mar. 26, 2001) According to Brig. Seymour Monro, the Army’s Director of Infantry, tasks that women soldiers were not physically capable of performing had been made easier or dropped from the trials...
    - Center for Military Readiness | International Policies

    It was reviewed and tried again in 2010...

    BRITISH CONCLUDE STUDY OF WOMEN IN COMBAT: NO CHANGES
    Tuesday, November 30, 2010

    ...The Ministry of Defence has completed a review into the policy that excludes female members of the Armed Forces from carrying out ground close combat roles, and decided that it should remain unchanged...
    - CENTEX UNFILTERED NEWS: BRITISH CONCLUDE STUDY OF WOMEN IN COMBAT: NO CHANGES

    Few serious armies use women in combat roles. Israel, which drafts most of its young women and uses them in all kinds of military work, has learned from experience to take them out of combat zones. Tests show that few women have the upper-body strength required for combat tasks. Keeping combat forces all male would not be discriminatory, as were earlier racial segregation schemes in the military, because men and women are different both physically and psychologically,” - Feb. 5, 1990, National Review.

    Israeli women won’t see combat
    October 20, 2003

    "JERUSALEM -- Young women who are drafted into the Israeli military will be barred from most combat duties because of a medical study that has determined they are, after all, the weaker sex..."
    - Israeli women won't see combat - Washington Times
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    Re: Should women be allowed to serve in combat roles in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I jave no idea what your asking. Please use spiific example.
    Say ALL men became ill, couldn't do anything any more. Would fires simply not be fought and be allowed to burn? Would there be no more police? Would we no longer defend ourselves? I believe there was a test once, and I haven't looked for it on the internet, in which a group of men and a group of women were given a task that required endurance, strength, and intelligence. Women won the test. The point is not that women are better, because that was truly too small a sample to reach such a conclusion. but what was interesting is they tackled the problems differently, but just as effectively. Isn't possible that we become too married to standards that really don't matter? I'm only asking.

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    Re: Should women be allowed to serve in combat roles in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Say ALL men became ill, couldn't do anything any more. Would fires simply not be fought and be allowed to burn? Would there be no more police? Would we no longer defend ourselves? I believe there was a test once, and I haven't looked for it on the internet, in which a group of men and a group of women were given a task that required endurance, strength, and intelligence. Women won the test. The point is not that women are better, because that was truly too small a sample to reach such a conclusion. but what was interesting is they tackled the problems differently, but just as effectively. Isn't possible that we become too married to standards that really don't matter? I'm only asking.
    Your examples are far fetched and show little. Without evidence to look at for such a test again it means little. All the studies done in the last 20 years as I posted above say it's a bad idea, period. Look at it this way...

    If men and women cannot compete in simple athletic events against each other due to the huge physical advantage by men, why would we want to put weaker soldiers into combat???

    As I said before if they could pass the same physical tests as the men in significant numbers I would have no problem. The truth is they can't, period. Not for ground combat anyway.
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    Re: Should women be allowed to serve in combat roles in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Your examples are far fetched and show little. Without evidence to look at for such a test again it means little. All the studies done in the last 20 years as I posted above say it's a bad idea, period. Look at it this way...

    If men and women cannot compete in simple athletic events against each other due to the huge physical advantage by men, why would we want to put weaker soldiers into combat???

    As I said before if they could pass the same physical tests as the men in significant numbers I would have no problem. The truth is they can't, period. Not for ground combat anyway.
    Again, I think you suffer from group think and assume that a mission can only be accomplished one way. I at least find the thought interesting, and worth a little consideration.

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    Re: Should women be allowed to serve in combat roles in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Again, I think you suffer from group think and assume that a mission can only be accomplished one way. I at least find the thought interesting, and worth a little consideration.
    Not "group think" but common sense. I mean you can ignore the evidence and that is your prerogative, it does not however change the reality of the situation. Until science advances to the point were ground units no longer need physical endurance and strength as the evidence shows, their is little to debate.

    Instead of addressing the evidence or answering my question, you simply dismiss it as "group think." That alone should be enough to prove how weak your position and argument really are.
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    Re: Should women be allowed to serve in combat roles in the military?

    Any man who wants to push women in front of bullets (except their wives and ex-wives), raise your hand and be counted.

    No one.....that's what I thought.
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