View Poll Results: Is a State Animal Abuse Registry a good idea?

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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by Travelsonic View Post
    If it is modeled after the sex offender registry, it is bound to be riddled with the same logical quandaries, and real issues the list has now - from the ease of getting onto it, to the philosophical/moral issues associated with labeling people after they've committed a crime and paid their debt to society. IMO, if we allow ourselves to snap to an idea on an emotional note, and ignore the real questions surrounding the idea being supported emotionally, we're bound to make some grave errors - and do more harm than good.
    This, it is way too easy to get on the sex offender list, you often don't have to be what one would call a "sex offender". Idiots who streak at a football game can be forced to register as sex offenders, so can teens who have sex with their girl/boyfriends.

    I don't think modelling anything after that mess of a system is a good thing.
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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Why not a registered animal sex offenders list?
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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    This, it is way too easy to get on the sex offender list, you often don't have to be what one would call a "sex offender". Idiots who streak at a football game can be forced to register as sex offenders, so can teens who have sex with their girl/boyfriends.

    I don't think modelling anything after that mess of a system is a good thing.
    It is the concept of a offender list that is being used. It is NOT the errors of that previous list that are being modeled.

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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Why not a registered animal sex offenders list?
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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    I rode the bike around a bit today. Lots of thinking time on a motorcycle....
    And I could not come up with a reasonable instance where this would be necessary.

    Then I got to thinking about the Constitutionality of it. How would this Not be considered Cruel and Unusual to permanently brand someone after they had paid their debt to society?
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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    This registry would only matter to those us who see animal abuse as a serious thing. Besides, identifying animal abusers help people too, since people who torture animals often go on to hurting people. In fact, torturing animals is how a lot of serial killers got their start.
    Interesting concept. Any data to back up this theory?
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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post

    Is this an idea whose time has come?
    I picked no.The huge vast majority of people who do not abuse animals should not be subjected to a back ground check because they want to buy a dog,cat, goldfish,chicken or some other animal.
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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Anyone attempting to buy an animal from a breeder, store or adopt one from a shelter would have to go through a quick search of the data base to make sure they were not on it. If they were on it, they would be denied the opportunity to obtain another animal.
    So animal sellers now have to perform background checks before selling them? Profoundly unwieldy. People have resisted background checks at gun shows, and you want private breeders to lug laptops around with wireless internet connections at swap meets to sell bulldogs? Compliance will be nil, and local law enforcement is simply not going to dedicate the resources to enforce this.

    I love animals as much as the next guy, but this registry is just too much. It adds a thick layer of infrastructure that is difficult to implement and unjustified for the seriousness of the crime in society. It seems obscene to be so focused on animals when there are stories of children in foster care being kept in abominable conditions, ignored by an already overstretched government making excuses about why they can't give the people in their charge the attention that they need.
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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefgator View Post
    Interesting concept. Any data to back up this theory?
    How's this?

    Ted Bundy, David Berkowitz and Jeffrey Dahmer have more in common than just being serial killers. These three murderers are also connected by the fact that each of them tortured and/or killed animals during their childhoods. "Researchers as well as FBI and other law enforcement agencies nationwide have linked animal cruelty to domestic violence, child abuse, serial killings and to the recent rash of killings by school age children", says Dr. Randall Lockwood (vice president of training and initiatives for the Humane Society of the United States.
    Some children are cruel to and torture animals to impress their peers, but future serial killers usually torture animals purely for their own enjoyment. Animal abuse is a recognized sign of a mental disorder. If a child hurts animals it should be a red flag and immediate action should be taken. While there are many factors that contribute to someone becoming a serial killer, the one constant they share is animal abuse.
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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefgator View Post
    Interesting concept. Any data to back up this theory?
    Chief I provided some data in the links to back up my statement regarding the connection between animal abusers and domestic violence in post number 3. I provided an answer to your assertion that "[you] do not see how this can better society" in post number .

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