View Poll Results: Is a State Animal Abuse Registry a good idea?

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  • YES- this is a good idea

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  • NO - this is not necessary

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  • I like to abuse animals and do not want to be stopped

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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    No it is not. You want to tack on another fine and penalty.
    The Supreme Court has said otherwise.

    You have said nothing to refute. Your last several posts have been rants using over the top hyperbole and gross exaggeration.
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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The Supreme Court has said otherwise.
    No it has not. It has in the case of sex offenders.

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    You have said nothing to refute. Your last several posts have been rants using over the top hyperbole and gross exaggeration.
    I rest my case.
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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    No it has not. It has in the case of sex offenders.



    I rest my case.
    You never had a case to begin with. Every practical objection you had I refuted and overcame. Now, its simple right wing ideology that is all you have left.

    A registry is a registry is a registry. Shakespeare may have said that. If he didn't - he should have. The principle is the same.
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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You never had a case to begin with. Every practical objection you had I refuted and overcame. Now, its simple right wing ideology that is all you have left.
    You have not refuted ****. You have given half answers and ignored others. You have answered some, but that is not the equivalent of refuting anything.

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    A registry is a registry is a registry. Shakespeare may have said that. If he didn't - he should have. The principle is the same.
    No they are not even remotely the same thing. Notice we don't have murderer registry's or mugger registry's etc. Hell they would be allot more useful than an animal abuse registry.
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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    The poll reads sarcastically when one looks at the options available and how it obviously derides those against the registry, but abuse is abuse: all living creatures have feelings of happiness and pain, and one does not need to be human to experience life.

    People capable of inflicting pain on creates that are assigned as family by society have an anger management issue. This should be dealt with, and a registry would do precisely that.

    Ants, caterpillars, and the like, regardless of life, are not identified with humanity on a universal scale as mammals are classified. I do not condone this, but I accept the current limitations of humanity and it's inability to universally value life outside of itself. Humans are naturally more drawn to mammals than non-mammals due to their likeness to us. Humanity best identifies itself with mammals naturally, and a person capable of inflicting pain on mammals is one who is capable of harming other mammals, including humans.

    Mammalian abuse is resultant of a psychological and individualistic propensity to physically violent outbursts in general. This should obviously be contained, and a registry would accomplish such a feat.

    (This is to view a registry as something the police should have as a tool to follow violent acts not unlike a registry for pedophilia, for both are specific to a type of abuse, i.e., animal and child, and, therefore, are unlike murder, which can be circumstantial; however, serial killers are the exception by definition, for they have a repeated behaviour type not unlike people who abuse animals and underage people. But how often are serial killers released back into the public to make a serial killer registry probable? And if this is a problem, I certainly support a serial killer registry.)
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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by shelphs View Post
    The poll reads sarcastically when one looks at the options available and how it obviously derides those against the registry, but abuse is abuse: all living creatures have feelings of happiness and pain, and one does not need to be human to experience life.

    People capable of inflicting pain on creates that are assigned as family by society have an anger management issue. This should be dealt with, and a registry would do precisely that.

    Ants, caterpillars, and the like, regardless of life, cannot be identified with humanity on a universal scale as mammals are classified. I do not condone this, but I accept the current limitations of humanity and it's capacity to value life outside of itselfy. Universally, people are naturally more drawn to mammals than non-mammals. Humanity best identifies itself with mammals naturally, and a person capable of inflicting pain on mammals is one who is capable of harming other mammals, including humans.

    Mammalian abuse is resultant of a psychological and individualistic propensity to physically violent outbursts in general. This should obviously be contained, and a registry would accomplish such a feat.
    So I guess avian's and reptiles which are also very popular pets don't deserve any more protection than cows, pigs or deer etc? Right?

    The argument is just another like "it's for the children" bull**** liberal argument. That is all this is. It is a waist of time and tax payers money.

    PS: Avian's are actually smarter than most mammals.
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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    If I see you starve your child or kick your cat, I will call the cops on you. Evil is evil. The news is just a capitalistic way of disseminating information, regardless of priority, accuracy or value.
    Yep. Evil capitalists starving the children and kicking the kitties.

    I am sorry but I have priorities. My father is a veternarian and I love animals. I have had dogs all my life. A human life will ALWAYS be more valuable than an animals, and it bothers me when people waste their time on issues that really are not relevant (like excessive worry over animal abuse when people still put cigs out on children).
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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    But it will not be. Serving ones prison time, serving ones parole time, being placed on a registry is perfectly part of the court system.
    A registry is not a part of the court system. You are put on one automatically when convicted. Not to mention you are charging the people to be put on it when they have no choice in the matter.
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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    So I guess avian's and reptiles which are also very popular pets don't deserve any more protection that cows, pigs or deer etc? Right?

    The argument is just another like "it's for the children" bull**** liberal argument. That is all this is. It is a waist of time and tax payers money.
    You are being hyperbolic in your assumptions. Birds and reptiles, though popular pets, are not as universally accepted as mammalian pets. And I specifically commented on how this is cultural and human in nature - that humanity is for greater sympathetic toward that which portrays and displays human characteristics.

    My argument was based on human safety, which I believe animal cruelty is loosely connected, but more important is physical abuse toward a living creature. As a society, humanity should not tolerate such a thing. Society should combat pain consciously inflicted on sentient beings by other sentient beings.
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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Can you explain how ranting and raving about non existent rights bolsters any point you are trying to make?
    So the 4th amendment and the 8th amendment are non-existent rights to you? Again, you show your disdain for peoples rights.

    Yep, sounds like a politician to me.

    And you still have not explained how this is going to stop people from abusing animals.
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