View Poll Results: Is a State Animal Abuse Registry a good idea?

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  • YES- this is a good idea

    27 36.00%
  • NO - this is not necessary

    39 52.00%
  • I like to abuse animals and do not want to be stopped

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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    There is nothing excessive nor cruel and unusual.
    It is punishment beyond that of what the court system sets as such it could be deemed excessive.
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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

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    It will help. I am not looking for perfection in human endeavors.
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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So what?

    My turn. Two plus two is four.
    Good to know what you think of a persons rights.
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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You allege violations of your freedom.

    I challenge you to point out which freedoms of yours are being violated.

    Your response is to discuss your own self image and other freedoms which you do not have.

    I point this out.

    You reply with a Nazi slogan.

    Yes, you are being silly and delusional.
    That is what you sound like, a totalitarian Nazi. I call it like I see it. I also already addressed your question and others have covered it as well...

    Not be punished beyond serving time or paying a fine by being marked with a scarlet letter and branded for 5 years beyond. Then having my name and residence made public plus being charged $50 for the pleasure of having my right to privacy stripped away so you can feel better about an abused animal. - http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1060319938

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    As I have already stated this quote pretty much sums up what this garbage piece of legislation is... revenge, and nothing more.

    It's useful idiots that take away more of our rights every day in the name of "protecting us from ourselves" and they are nothing more than the same kind of people that eventually ran Soviet Russia and Nazi Germany. History has and always will bear this out.
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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Apparently I've changed my mind. I fully support the registry and I suggest that abusing or shooting domestic animals have the penalties doubled.

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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    It is punishment beyond that of what the court system sets as such it could be deemed excessive.
    But it will not be. Serving ones prison time, serving ones parole time, being placed on a registry is perfectly part of the court system.
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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Apparently I've changed my mind. I fully support the registry and I suggest that abusing or shooting domestic animals have the penalties doubled.
    Good luck with being a vegetarian, lol.
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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Blackdog

    Can you explain how ranting and raving about non existent rights bolsters any point you are trying to make?

    Can you explain how using over the top hyperbole and bringing up Nazi's and totalitarianism bolsters your case?

    Please do try to restrict yourself to the issues at hand. You started out that way and I handled an answered your objections. When you had nothing left in the way of rational argument, you went the way of hyperbole and gross exaggeration.

    It's useful idiots that take away more of our rights every day in the name of "protecting us from ourselves" and they are nothing more than the same kind of people that eventually ran Soviet Russia and Nazi Germany. History has and always will bear this out.
    Nobody is trying to protect you from yourself. I would not bother. We are trying to protect animals from abusers. The rest of your rant is hyperbole and silliness in the extreme.
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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    But it will not be. Serving ones prison time, serving ones parole time, being placed on a registry is perfectly part of the court system.
    No it is not. You want to tack on another fine and penalty.
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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Blackdog

    Can you explain how ranting and raving about no existent rights bolsters any point you are trying to make?

    Can you explain how using over the top hyperbole and bringing up Nazi's and totalitarianism bolsters your case?

    Please do try to restrict yourself to the issues at hand. You started out that way and I handled an answered your objections. When you had nothing left in the way of rational argument, you went the way of hyperbole and gross exaggeration.
    Right after you can refute even one thing I said. I know you can't because you would rather shuck and jive your way around when anyone was serious. You reap what you sow.

    In fact I think so little of your ahem debate, I will bid you good night because to be honest this legislation is just really REALLY stupid feel good legislation that is about as useful as tits on an abused beef bull.
    Last edited by Black Dog; 03-22-12 at 09:43 PM.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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