View Poll Results: Is a State Animal Abuse Registry a good idea?

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  • YES- this is a good idea

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  • I like to abuse animals and do not want to be stopped

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Thread: Animal Abuse Registry

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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    Your interpretation is erroneous and self serving. The study is supportive of the idea that "animal cruelty [during childhood]was significantly associated with APD", this theory is not a stand alone proposition as supported by the several resources I have provided.
    My interpretation as it apply's to YOUR example and evidence is dead on.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Yes, I believe human slavery and animal abuse are both evil, despicable, disgusting behaviors. I also believe that there are many humans that are not "human" and many animals that are "human".

    There is still quite a lot of slavery (of humans) in the world. It took America a long time to figure out how wrong that was and even then blacks were essentially treated as "sub-human" until 1965. There are many people that recognize that animals have rights and personalities that deserve the protection of law. That's what triggered this thread.


    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    You have got to be kidding? Now animal cruelty is on the same level as human slavery??? I am not assuming "someone" that is different is less than human. I am saying as a scientific verifiable fact that an animal is not human.

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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Yes, I believe human slavery and animal abuse are both evil, despicable, disgusting behaviors. I also believe that there are many humans that are not "human" and many animals that are "human".
    Hmmm... Maybe you need to be on Connery's re-education list. I am just kidding, lol. Could not resist.

    Well I will have to say... hell how do you answer that? You think some animals are human?????????

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    There is still quite a lot of slavery (of humans) in the world. It took America a long time to figure out how wrong that was and even then blacks were essentially treated as "sub-human" until 1965. There are many people that recognize that animals have rights and personalities that deserve the protection of law. That's what triggered this thread.
    Animals deserve protection, this does not give them rights. Again animals are not human.

    Good thing I joined PETA - People Eating Tasty Animals.
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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    My cats do exhibit human qualities. Now, I've invested thousands of hours learning their language and teaching them mine. I would say that they are about 2 years to 3 year old (in human equivalency - see, you win) and they are as important to me as any child would be.

    So, yes, I believe that animals, particularly the domestics (pets) have the same rights to protection as small children. Small children can't vote, drink or go outside unsupervised, but they do have the right to be fed, comforted, receive medical care as if they were human. If there is an active God (separate topic ;-), they are his creations also and have as much "soul" as we do.

    That does not mean that I approve of this REGISTRY process. I do not approve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Hmmm... Maybe you need to be on Connery's re-education list. I am just kidding, lol. Could not resist.

    Well I will have to say... hell how do you answer that? You think some animals are human?????????



    Animals deserve protection, this does not give them rights. Again animals are not human.

    Good thing I joined PETA - People Eating Tasty Animals.

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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
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    So, yes, I believe that animals, particularly the domestics (pets) have the same rights to protection as small children. Small children can't vote, drink or go outside unsupervised, but they do have the right to be fed, comforted, receive medical care as if they were human. If there is an active God (separate topic ;-), they are his creations also and have as much "soul" as we do.
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    I agree wholeheartedly!!!

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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    My cats do exhibit human qualities. Now, I've invested thousands of hours learning their language and teaching them mine. I would say that they are about 2 years to 3 year old (in human equivalency - see, you win) and they are as important to me as any child would be.
    This is good. I feel the same way about my parrot.

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    So, yes, I believe that animals, particularly the domestics (pets) have the same rights to protection as small children. Small children can't vote, drink or go outside unsupervised, but they do have the right to be fed, comforted, receive medical care as if they were human. If there is an active God (separate topic ;-), they are his creations also and have as much "soul" as we do.
    Don''t you think that's a little hypocritical? Domestic food and farm animals because they are not fuzzy and cute get no consideration?

    Well we were given dominion over the animals. This stewardship does not mean to abuse. I don't however believe they have souls. (Discussion for another time.)

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    That does not mean that I approve of this REGISTRY process. I do not approve.
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    100% agree.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    My interpretation as it apply's to YOUR example and evidence is dead on.
    Try again you have ignored all other authority I have provided and once again are attempting to contour what you pick into a viable and cohesiveness position.

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    This is a great idea not only how it would track those that have a track record of such activity and prevent ownership for such people, but it would effect how animal abuse is perceived. For example in treating those with antisocial behavior or a history of domestic violence. This would be a good tool for those who treat the abusers and help toward a better understanding of the psychology and /or behavioral pattern of the abusers. Not to mention keep these abusive pricks away from animals.

    The Connection between Domestic Violence and Animal Cruelty

    Facts About Animal Abuse & Domestic Violence

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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    Try again you have ignored all other authority I have provided and once again are attempting to contour what you pick into a viable and cohesiveness position.
    I am going by your own examples. I am applying them again to Your examples. But as I can see from your responses to Ikari it is a waist of time as you ignore your own examples and play dumb.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    It has been enacted in Rockland County and Suffolk County, NY. And it is relatively new there also. Michigan would be the first state with a state wide registry. The PETA thing seems to be your version of the boogey man.
    So... There was enough data before when you used it to refute the PETA question, but now it is "relatively new ".
    And because you no longer have a leg to stand on, you resort to redirection. I can assure you I do not feel that PETA is the bogeyman. There are very few things in this world that I fear, however, an uncontrolled government is definitely one of them.
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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Don''t you think that's a little hypocritical? Domestic food and farm animals because they are not fuzzy and cute get no consideration?
    Yes, it is hypocritical. Our relationship with some animals is a purely commercial one, mostly chickens, cows, sheep and pigs. In many cases they are subjected to unnecessary abuse. That is why I try to buy Kosher meat (the animal can not suffer pain or the meat is not Kosher) and I prefer to buy free range products. It is sad that we kill them but it is fundamental. Our arrangement with household animals is different. We have a form of contract with them. They provide companionship and security and we provide room, board and protection. Strengthening and enforcing Animal Cruelty laws is very important. Creating registries is not a valid protection and is an infringement on human rights without a matching benefit.

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