View Poll Results: Is a State Animal Abuse Registry a good idea?

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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefgator View Post
    Can you show me a single instance where this database has stopped an incident of abuse in the places it has already been enacted?
    And just how would we know it stopped it if it stopped it??
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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Those who would hurt helpless animals are of a different ilk than those who get in bar fights.
    Humans are on a whole different level than animals.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Humans are on a whole different level than animals.
    Yes, they are. Animals don't torture animals. Only humans do that.
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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    A state legislator in Michigan is proposing that the State enact an Animal Abuser registry modeled after other states Sex Offender Registry system.

    Legislator from Detroit introduces bill to create an animal abuser registry | Detroit Free Press | freep.com

    In Wayne County alone, the Humane Society investigated over 5,000 cases of animal abuse in 2011. No other state has this although similar legislation has been introduced in at least five states.

    Is this an idea whose time has come?
    No, it's not a good idea. I don't even think a sex offender registry is a good idea. Criminals should be monitored by the state not citizens who are oftentimes loose cannons. Registries are unjustified invasion of privacy that leave criminals who have served their time at the whim of the often stupid and irrational public.

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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    Your attempt to trivialize this issue is the product of poor judgment in application of what a crime is and is not here is an example of what would be listed and the person attached to the action.
    It is trivial and the punishment should fit the crime. Animals are property and have no rights. If an animal harms a human it is killed, not the other way around. Someone who is careless or lazy for whatever reason should not be put on a public list for life and treated like a criminal because of a misdemeanor animal abuse charge, period.

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    "Except as provided in subdivision (c) of this section or Section 599c, every person who maliciously and intentionally maims, mutilates, tortures, or wounds a living animal, or maliciously and
    intentionally kills an animal, is guilty of a crime."
    According to that most hunters and fisherman should be on that list as well. Hell they maim, mutilate and wound living animals all the time. That's how ridicules this list is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    Whether you like it or not just about every facet of society has "list" attached to it, even an internet forum.
    Wow the appeal to common practice fallacy shows how weak your argument really is.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    LOL mantra that is your word....and whatever meaning you seem to attach to it.
    Apt description more like it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    Ikari the implications of your statement are unfortunately very clear.
    Humans are better than animals, yes.


    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    I am not in favor of "more government" in favor of how an animal abuse registry can benefit society, as I expressed in many earlier posts, the points of which you have not addressed.
    How could it benefit other than giving noisy people another thing though which they can single others out? There’s no “benefit”, it won’t stop animal abuse. All this comes down to is yet another government list, more monitoring, and more busybodies thinking they should be in everyone’s business. Though I guess that’s what busybodies do.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    And just how would we know it stopped it if it stopped it??
    Decrease in recidivism rates. That’s a measurable quantity.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    The question does serve a purpose if you do abuse animals....if you treat them poorly because you can.
    No it serves no purpose because it is completely unrelated. The majority of animal abuse cases are #1 misdemeanors that means nothing but a fine and #2 most cases involve lack of care, not purposely hurting the animal. I guess you don't eat viel, chicken or beef then? If you do you are indirectly causing the torture of animals and need to be on that list.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Most people find animal abuse horrific. You don't.
    No, most people find it sad, not horrific. Horrific would be the slaughter of innocent children in Congo. Priority's are a killer.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I wonder why that is. (I doubt you do, btw, but it's an honest question.)
    I absolutely adore animals. I love my parrot Sweetpea very much. This however does not change the fact that she is my pet and has no rights.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    do we have a national child abuse registry? not sex offender, but child abuse?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    do we have a national child abuse registry? not sex offender, but child abuse?
    National? I don't believe so. We do have one for domestic violence...

    National Domestic Violence Registry - Offender Registry

    This probably includes child abuse.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    You can successfully wipe your ass with toilet paper, that doesn't mean that you should.

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