View Poll Results: Is a State Animal Abuse Registry a good idea?

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  • YES- this is a good idea

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  • NO - this is not necessary

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  • I like to abuse animals and do not want to be stopped

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Thread: Animal Abuse Registry

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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Ikari - If we can put aside the slogans like Big Brother for a moment, what is wrong with arming the citizenry and business with information that will help prevent animal abuse?
    How will this stop abuse???? The death penalty does not stop murder and the sex offender list does not stop sex offenders, so why would this stop anything at all??? Makes no sense. At least the sex offender list helps parents keep an eye out on the children. This animal list is just useless revenge.
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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Anyone who does anything bad to another human is lower than animal abusers. Clearly. Animal abuse lowest of the low? That statement cannot be made by fully rational individuals.
    Those who would hurt helpless animals are of a different ilk than those who get in bar fights.
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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    They are though, regardless of whatever mantra you want to throw out there. It doesn't make them not human or not American. So in reality it doesn't matter.
    LOL mantra that is your word....and whatever meaning you seem to attach to it.

    I would personally beat the **** out of every animal I came across if it could prevent lists like this.
    Ikari the implications of your statement are unfortunately very clear.


    There is nothing "positive" about this. It is nothing more than Big Brother databasing tactics used against the American People. More government, more government, more government. Is that the only thing you people can say
    I am not in favor of "more government" in favor of how an animal abuse registry can benefit society, as I expressed in many earlier posts, the points of which you have not addressed.

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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    What good comes out of the pedophile database? It puts people on notice that they need to be vigilant.
    No it will not. I will allow people to gawk and make people feel better that no one on the list lives in there neighborhood. In other words it is as useless as tit's on a bull. The pedophile database is a completely different story. It is actually useful in keeping children a little safer. An animal abuser registry will do nothing, nothing at all. It will not lessen animals abuse in any way, and it will not protect anyone's animal. Again this is nothing more than retribution.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    This information is all public record. The only thing different about it is that it is more readily accessible. I see nothing wrong with it. I'm a Realtor. Look me up in our Illinois database, and you'll see any license infraction I've ever had. (None, in my case, btw.) This kind of database is not without precedent. Maybe we ought to have one for people convicted of domestic violence...in fact, I think that'd be an excellent idea.
    I think people like that are a huge problem and affront to personal liberty and freedom.

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    I'm also one of those people who doesn't care much about the government "spying on me." I have nothing to hide.
    So what? Most people don't. This does not mean we should sit back and lose our right to privacy.
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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Those who would hurt helpless animals are of a different ilk than those who get in bar fights.
    That is just ridicules.
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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    That is just ridicules.
    Do you abuse animals? You honestly think a couple guys who like to fight in bars and instigate drama are as low as people who put cats in pillowcases for their pitbulls to tear apart? I guess there's no accounting for sensibilities...
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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Do you abuse animals? You honestly think a couple guys who like to fight in bars and instigate drama are as low as people who put cats in pillowcases for their pitbulls to tear apart? I guess there's no accounting for sensibilities...
    Yes every chance I get. That question serves absolutely no purpose in this debate.

    If a couple of guys fight in a bar, so what? Has little to do with dog fighting etc. That's the point, it is irrelevant.

    Guess there is no accounting for ****ing common sense.
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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Yes because someone who can't afford to feed a horse is such a hardend criminal. They definitely need to be publicly humiliated. Hell this is the 13th century!


    Again bull****. This is nothing but feel good useless intrusion needlessly. If the government already has the criminal charges, and they are public, why do we need a registry? It is just total crap.
    Your attempt to trivialize this issue is the product of poor judgment in application of what a crime is and is not here is an example of what would be listed and the person attached to the action.

    "Except as provided in subdivision (c) of this section or Section 599c, every person who maliciously and intentionally maims, mutilates, tortures, or wounds a living animal, or maliciously and
    intentionally kills an animal, is guilty of a crime."

    Wow an "uninvited guest" list. Made up of anonymous user handles on the internet. Now if they posted real names and addresses, that would be a different story.
    Whether you like it or not just about every facet of society has "list" attached to it, even an internet forum.

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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Can you show me a single instance where this database has stopped an incident of abuse in the places it has already been enacted?
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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Yes every chance I get. That question serves absolutely no purpose in this debate.

    If a couple of guys fight in a bar, so what? Has little to do with dog fighting etc. That's the point, it is irrelevant.

    Guess there is no accounting for ****ing common sense.
    The question does serve a purpose if you do abuse animals....if you treat them poorly because you can. Most people find animal abuse horrific. You don't. I wonder why that is. (I doubt you do, btw, but it's an honest question.)
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