View Poll Results: Is a State Animal Abuse Registry a good idea?

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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefgator View Post
    Did you look up that number? Then that means the stats and data is already being tracked.
    If the FBI wants to investigate potential mass murderers with this data, they just have to get a warrant to examine the information. With this database/registry, no warrant would be required.
    Actually it means there were over 5,000 cases reported in Wayne County. There are 83 counties in Michigan and many do not even keep statistics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    And how many of those reported cases was of an animal that wasn't actually being abused? Our court system sends innocent people to prison for murder, a much more serious offense. That is of course assuming that those 5,000 reported cases are actual court convictions and not just "reports" where someone is just accused of it.
    One big problem is that animal abuse cases are handled on a local level and there is no uniform consistency in gathering or in keeping statistics since many counties do not even bother.
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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Actually the number of arrests alone is staggering let alone the numbers for convictions.

    This site has allot of information: Pet-Abuse.Com - Home

    I think a registry is a waist of time and money, but the amount of arrests and convictions is not understated in any way.
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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Actually the number of arrests alone is staggering let alone the numbers for convictions.

    This site has allot of information: Pet-Abuse.Com - Home

    I think a registry is a waist of time and money, but the amount of arrests and convictions is not understated in any way.
    Thank you for the info about convictions. it is appreciated.

    Hopefully , a registry would help prevent an abuser from getting an animal in the first place.
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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Thank you for the info about convictions. it is appreciated.

    Hopefully , a registry would help prevent an abuser from getting an animal in the first place.
    The number of "preventions" would be miniscule by your own admission that records are sparsely kept. Heavy duty felony abuse cases may be different, but convicted felons are tracked in other ways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefgator View Post
    The number of "preventions" would be miniscule by your own admission that records are sparsely kept. Heavy duty felony abuse cases may be different, but convicted felons are tracked in other ways.
    That is one thing that is being taken care of in the amending of the bill.
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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    This registry would be a great idea. People don't like labels, especially on their own name. Anyone who abuses an animal is human trash in my opinion. I'm actually in favor for severe consequences for abusing animals, including long term prison sentences without the possibility of parole. If you cant feed/provide for an animal, don't buy one or raise one. If you beat an animal for no reason you obviously are a complete waste of human DNA. If you can no longer take care of your animal, take it to the animal shelter instead of leaving it to die. Failing to care for an animal that is completely relying on you for its survival speaks volumes about a persons character.
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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Actually the number of arrests alone is staggering let alone the numbers for convictions.

    This site has allot of information: Pet-Abuse.Com - Home

    I think a registry is a waist of time and money, but the amount of arrests and convictions is not understated in any way.
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    There's your list. Why do we need another official government list, again?

    Keep in mind a couple points, also...

    1) The example given is Wayne County, which includes Detroit, whose numbers are most likely waaaaaay higher than any other county in the state.

    2) Many of the names on the list I cite above include investigations that are 'alleged' and 'open', which means the actual number of convictions is significantly lower. Granted, many of them, if not most, will eventually be convicted, but this is just example #12,409,844 that our society doesn't really believe in "innocent until proven guilty" no matter how much we prattle on about it. We've seen this in other lists, we see it here, we have no reason to believe this list will be better, and while the challenge was laid down a few pages ago for supporters to suggests safeguards, not one supporter has attempted to do so.

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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    Would it be possible to get a copy of the text of the proposed bill?

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    Re: Animal Abuse Registry

    I don't know if this has been mentioned before, but serial killers usually start off practicing on animals, so at the very least the FBI should keep tabs on the extreme cases where animals were tortured etc. That sicko is just getting warmed up.


    Of course, if you can throw a football and run a fast 40, then our society seems to be more forgiving with regard to animal torture.

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