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    Re: Should unapproved lemonade stands be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    If it were meat I'd be a lot more worried. Something containing 5% citric acid in sugar water? Not so much.

    I appreciate your input, though. Having recently read The Wild Life Of Our Bodies and followed it's premise most of my life, I just have a different take on the whole issue. I also understand that most people, and especially people in your profession, still live by the code "the only good germ is a dead germ". I'm sure your life is filled with anti-bacterial agents and disinfectants and in your case it's probably justified. For most people I don't think it is.
    i can think of several paths to transmission of pathogens via improper food handling in this particular case.

    the lemonade could be pressed and processed in a kitchen where meat is prepared and surfaces are improperly cleaned. also in most cases, we are talking about children who might not be fastidious about thorough handwashing.

    would E. Coli or Salmonella thrive and multiply well in low pH / high sucrose cooled liquid culture? no. however, many organisms would remain viable. i have worked with strains of 0113 and 0157:H7 that have extremely low infectious doses; in some cases, the infectious dose is one organism.

    also, norovirus (stomach "flu" / viral gastroenteritis) is efficiently transferred though food preparation by someone who is infected.

    do i think cops should go around busting lemonade stands? no. however, i'm very happy that we tightly regulate the food service industry. i responded to this thread to give a little perspective. lemonade stands aren't being targeted for no reason by mean authoritarians who want to ruin a childhood rite of passage. there are legitimate reasons behind an increased awareness and enforcement of food safety issues.

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    Re: Should unapproved lemonade stands be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Chicken! The KIDS drink it - it can't be THAT bad for you! LOL!
    Ha! I'm surprised most kids make into adulthood with all the stuff that goes in their mouths.

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    Re: Should unapproved lemonade stands be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    It's called a deterrent. People are far more likely to take necessary health precautions when they have established that they are legally allowed to do something. This is why you don't find rat tails in your meat.
    I don't know. If you think little kids should need to have permits to sell lemonade or other dumb little kids stuff I don't know what to say. It's pretty stupid.
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    Re: Should unapproved lemonade stands be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Ha! I'm surprised most kids make into adulthood with all the stuff that goes in their mouths.
    Some scientists are beginning to believe we need a little more of that "stuff" to stay healthy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i can think of several paths to transmission of pathogens via improper food handling in this particular case.

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    I know things could happen, the question is, what's the likelihood of it happening?

    But I'm glad you chimed on because, as you say, there ARE good reasons for industry control of pathogens and if I gave anyone any other impression I'm sorry. The food industry can have many disastrous affects on people, look at last fall's issue with cantaloupes! It's why we have permits and (hopefully) regular inspections of eating establishments and food handling/packaging facilities. Many people whine about spending money on the FDA and I have to wonder where their brain is.
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    Re: Should unapproved lemonade stands be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Some scientists are beginning to believe we need a little more of that "stuff" to stay healthy.
    Sure, I'm actually one of the people that agrees with those scientists and I think the fact that my mother didn't put me a bubble when I was kid like a lot of parents do is one of the reasons I don't get sick as often as a lot of other adults. Nonetheless, that doesn't mean I'm interested in drink some kid's snot.

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    Re: Should unapproved lemonade stands be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Sure, I'm actually one of the people that agrees with those scientists and I think the fact that my mother didn't put me a bubble when I was kid like a lot of parents do is one of the reasons I don't get sick as often as a lot of other adults. Nonetheless, that doesn't mean I'm interested in drink some kid's snot.
    Well, I can understand the *yuck* factor many feel. I've got three grandsons and I don't think a week goes by that Mom or Grandma doesn't cringe. LOL!
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    Re: Should unapproved lemonade stands be illegal?

    Leave the kids alone..


    Several women in my family would get together annually and set up a garage sale to sell off no longer needed items. It was a good way to make a few dollars and it was also a family social gathering. The women would run the en-devour and the men would supply the muscle. Many years it was the only time I would see some of my extended family and each year we would use the proceeds to fun a family dinner afterward.

    To my surprise a few years ago the state made it mandatory to have a permit to have a garage sale. While I understand the reasoning it just struck me as further intrusion of the government into our lives. They now monitor garage sales for crying out loud. We know all those little old ladies are becoming a serious threat to our economy and also withholding trillions in tax revenue! /facepalm

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    Re: Should unapproved lemonade stands be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    To my surprise a few years ago the state made it mandatory to have a permit to have a garage sale.
    You'll have to show me the link for that one! We have garage/yard sales every June in our subdivision. They last all weekend and some of our neighbors are LEO's. No one gets a permit of any kind and never has.
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    Re: Should unapproved lemonade stands be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    Leave the kids alone..

    Several women in my family would get together annually and set up a garage sale to sell off no longer needed items. It was a good way to make a few dollars and it was also a family social gathering. The women would run the en-devour and the men would supply the muscle. Many years it was the only time I would see some of my extended family and each year we would use the proceeds to fun a family dinner afterward.

    To my surprise a few years ago the state made it mandatory to have a permit to have a garage sale. While I understand the reasoning it just struck me as further intrusion of the government into our lives. They now monitor garage sales for crying out loud. We know all those little old ladies are becoming a serious threat to our economy and also withholding trillions in tax revenue! /facepalm
    The place I live now does not do that. The place I used to live does require a permit. They claimed it was to keep track only so that people would do "serial garage saleing" as a way to run an actual business and skirt around the requirements for that. Supposedly, you only aroused attention if you had 4 or more garage sales in a year.

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    Re: Should unapproved lemonade stands be illegal?

    The day we start cracking down on little kids running lemonade stands, is the same day I buy a one way ticket to Canada.

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