View Poll Results: Is there a War on Women?

Voters
146. You may not vote on this poll
  • Yes

    34 23.29%
  • No

    80 54.79%
  • Yes and No

    15 10.27%
  • Something else

    17 11.64%
Page 48 of 53 FirstFirst ... 384647484950 ... LastLast
Results 471 to 480 of 529

Thread: Is there a "War on Women" in the United States?

  1. #471
    Doesn't go below juicy
    tacomancer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Cleveland
    Last Seen
    05-20-16 @ 02:42 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    31,781
    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    Again, I agree. But these issues don't remain at the theoretical level. They assume a reality and actions, with an impact on society.
    well grom my personal and subjective perspective, i mostly don't care. i have found in life that different women want different things. my mom is a feminist and i was raised to be co partners in terms of a marriage. my wife ended up being more traditional and to the point where she preferred i make all major decisions and she would do as i ask (within reason) and it took me several years to realize this about her. my best female friend (other than my wife) has yet another perspective. all are valid and all require different things of me. the gender laws pretty much work in the same ways from my perspective as well.

    even though my expectations are different from one person to another, i chalk it up to differences in personality and not harm to myself are my own personal views.

    i regard these feminists in much the same way,.
    Last edited by tacomancer; 04-27-12 at 10:31 AM.

  2. #472
    Sage
    Gimmesometruth's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    US Southwest
    Last Seen
    09-13-17 @ 10:22 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    22,405

    Re: Is there a "War on Women" in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    Again, I agree. But these issues don't remain at the theoretical level. They assume a reality and actions, with an impact on society.
    Again, when it is pointed that there are many direct actions taken by conservatives at the state and federal legislatures to remove, weaken, undercut or repeal gains made in women's rights, you can still sit there and say there is no tangible, objective evidence, that it is all subjective?

    That is some heavy denial.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

  3. #473
    Imposition of miscellany
    NoC_T's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Last Seen
    11-25-17 @ 04:57 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    11,193

    Re: Is there a "War on Women" in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    well grom my personal and subjective perspective, i mostly don't care. i have found in life that different women want different things. my mom is a feminist and i was raised to be co partners in terms of a marriage. my wife ended up being more traditional and to the point where she preferred i make all major decisions and she would do as i ask (within reason) and it took me several years to realize this about her. my best female friend (other than my wife) has yet another perspective. all are valid and all require different things of me. the gender laws pretty much work in the same ways from my perspective as well.

    even though my expectations are different from one person to another, i chalk it up to differences in personality and not harm to myself are my own personal views.

    i regard these feminists in much the same way,.
    That's cool.

  4. #474
    Imposition of miscellany
    NoC_T's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Last Seen
    11-25-17 @ 04:57 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    11,193

    Re: Is there a "War on Women" in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Again, when it is pointed that there are many direct actions taken by conservatives at the state and federal legislatures to remove, weaken, undercut or repeal gains made in women's rights, you can still sit there and say there is no tangible, objective evidence, that it is all subjective?

    That is some heavy denial.
    Actually, I'm the guy that's been arguing that such issues aren't subjective?

    And what legislation? Aren't the democrats in power?

    Do you think men have more rights than women?

  5. #475
    Imposition of miscellany
    NoC_T's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Last Seen
    11-25-17 @ 04:57 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    11,193

    Re: Is there a "War on Women" in the United States?

    Does anyone reading this thread believe that women are ruthlessly and brutally oppressed? And that men enjoy a quality of life that far surpasses that experienced by women? Do men have many more opportunities?

    Anyone? At all?

    I can see you guys reading this ****, so what say you?

  6. #476
    Doesn't go below juicy
    tacomancer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Cleveland
    Last Seen
    05-20-16 @ 02:42 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    31,781
    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    Does anyone reading this thread believe that women are ruthlessly and brutally oppressed? And that men enjoy a quality of life that far surpasses that experienced by women? Do men have many more opportunities?

    Anyone? At all?

    I can see you guys reading this ****, so what say you?
    i wouldn't say brutal but wage parity is a well known issue. in terms of quality of life beyond the work place i know that women are more often the victims of certain kinds of assault but i dont know of any data for day to day life

  7. #477
    Imposition of miscellany
    NoC_T's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Last Seen
    11-25-17 @ 04:57 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    11,193

    Re: Is there a "War on Women" in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    i wouldn't say brutal but wage parity is a well known issue. in terms of quality of life beyond the work place i know that women are more often the victims of certain kinds of assault but i dont know of any data for day to day life
    Right. Wages/salaries. It's not so much a 'well known' issue, so much as 'well known' podium.

    Fact is, women generally seek employment in the service sector (which is overwhelmingly female dominated), where salaries are lower than those in the private sector. Men also work longer hours, take less leave, less sick days and traditionally dominate the higher-risk occupations. Of course, these factors are usually omitted form the overall picture. Instead, we focus upon the 20% less result.

    As per crime statistics, shall we honestly apply them to the majority of women, who never suffer such crimes in their lives?

    Overall, do you believe women are ruthlessly and brutally oppressed in society, by ruthless and brutal men? You sound as though you'd like to avoid giving a straight yes or no answer to this. I believe that's because we both know what the answer is, don't we? Only, unlike yourself, I don't mind the anger it's likely to incur from the feminist quarter.

    I go so far as to say that only a man's opinion matters to me, regarding gender issues. I already know what the feminists think, and the majority of women who aren't feminists, will meekly stand by and allow feminists to speak for them.

  8. #478
    Sage
    Gimmesometruth's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    US Southwest
    Last Seen
    09-13-17 @ 10:22 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    22,405

    Re: Is there a "War on Women" in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    Actually, I'm the guy that's been arguing that such issues aren't subjective?
    Is that a statement or a question? You were just saying "You could ask a feminist how she's a victim. Socially? Legally? Economically? Where precisely is this 'war' waged? And how?", so you are making the argument that there are no objective examples of rights being curtailed.

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T
    And what legislation? Aren't the democrats in power?
    Barely in the Senate, but it goes beyond the fed level.

    So far this year, according to the Guttmacher Institute:
    In the first three months of 2012, legislators in 45 of the 46 legislatures that have convened this year introduced 944 provisions related to reproductive health and rights. Half of these provisions would restrict abortion access. So far, 75 abortion restrictions have been approved by at least one legislative chamber, and nine have been enacted. This is below the record-breaking pace of 2011, when 127 abortion restrictions had been approved by at least one body in the first quarter of the year, but still higher than usual for an election year. In 2010, for example, only 46 such restrictions had passed at least one house during the first quarter, while in 2008, only 34 had passed one chamber by that point.
    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T
    Do you think men have more rights than women?
    More...hmm...I think that since women are not chattel, that they have a right to control their own bodies.
    Last edited by Gimmesometruth; 04-27-12 at 11:37 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

  9. #479
    Sage
    Gimmesometruth's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    US Southwest
    Last Seen
    09-13-17 @ 10:22 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    22,405

    Re: Is there a "War on Women" in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    Right. Wages/salaries. It's not so much a 'well known' issue, so much as 'well known' podium.

    Fact is, women generally seek employment in the service sector (which is overwhelmingly female dominated), where salaries are lower than those in the private sector. Men also work longer hours, take less leave, less sick days and traditionally dominate the higher-risk occupations. Of course, these factors are usually omitted form the overall picture. Instead, we focus upon the 20% less result.
    I just pointed out that the Wisconsin repealed their equal pay act, requiring equal pay for equal work. The GOP blocked the Ledbetter legislation under Bush, it finally made it through in 2009. These are not examples of equal pay for different work.

    As per crime statistics, shall we honestly apply them to the majority of women, who never suffer such crimes in their lives?

    Overall, do you believe women are ruthlessly and brutally oppressed in society, by ruthless and brutal men? You sound as though you'd like to avoid giving a straight yes or no answer to this. I believe that's because we both know what the answer is, don't we? Only, unlike yourself, I don't mind the anger it's likely to incur from the feminist quarter.

    I go so far as to say that only a man's opinion matters to me, regarding gender issues. I already know what the feminists think, and the majority of women who aren't feminists, will meekly stand by and allow feminists to speak for them.
    The US has the highest level of rape of the major industrial states, most case go unreported.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

  10. #480
    Imposition of miscellany
    NoC_T's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Last Seen
    11-25-17 @ 04:57 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    11,193

    Re: Is there a "War on Women" in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Is that a statement or a question? You were just saying "You could ask a feminist how she's a victim. Socially? Legally? Economically? Where precisely is this 'war' waged? And how?", so you are making the argument that there are no objective examples of rights being curtailed.
    Those were questions. I'm making the argument that women aren't victims. If you believe I'm wrong, by all means, prove it.

    Barely in the Senate, but it goes beyond the fed level.

    So far this year, according to the Guttmacher Institute:

    More...hmm...I think that since women are not chattel, that they have a right to control their own bodies.
    And hey, look. Abortion is legal.

    Go figure huh?

Page 48 of 53 FirstFirst ... 384647484950 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •