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    Re: Is there a "War on Women" in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    In general I don't support 'mandating' insurance measures of any sort. . . so that's not what I was referring to. I don't consider whether it's covered by insurance or not to be 'availability' - That's just an insurance quandary. If you want certain things covered by insurance then find an insurance policy that covers those things.
    Then what are you talking about when stating:

    Or when we don't have to keep rehashing the necessity of birth control being available - and so on.
    What rehashing of the necessity of birth control being available has occured? It would seem you're talking about the recent debate concerning birth control and health care, but if you're not what "rehashing" of that are you talking about?

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    Re: Is there a "War on Women" in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    In 2008 90,000 women reported they were raped. Another 75,000 rapes were unreported. Yes, there's a war against women.

    Source: CBS News
    Exclusive: Rape in America: Justice Denied - CBS News
    As absolutely horrible and attrocious as rape is, the numbers you just gave...adding the unreported to the reported....represent 0.105% of women in the United States. That's essentially 1/10th of 1% of all the women in this country. While a dispicable act that we absolutely should work as a society to bring the number down on, that hardly constitutes a "war on women".

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    Re: Is there a "War on Women" in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    In 2008 90,000 women reported they were raped. Another 75,000 rapes were unreported. Yes, there's a war against women.

    Source: CBS News
    Exclusive: Rape in America: Justice Denied - CBS News
    And the hundreds of thousands of crimes men perpetrate against other men would be?

    Are you also assuming more men rape than don't rape?
    And that those that don't rape condone that specific crime mainly because it's against a woman?

    Black on black crime is a huge issue. Is there a "war" on blacks? By blacks?

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    Re: Is there a "War on Women" in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    As absolutely horrible and attrocious as rape is, the numbers you just gave...adding the unreported to the reported....represent 0.105% of women in the United States. That's essentially 1/10th of 1% of all the women in this country. While a dispicable act that we absolutely should work as a society to bring the number down on, that hardly constitutes a "war on women".
    Those are far higher numbers than those of our soldiers killed in Iraq. Yes, it's a war, and it should be taken seriously.

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    Re: Is there a "War on Women" in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    Those are far higher numbers than those of our soldiers killed in Iraq. Yes, it's a war, and it should be taken seriously.
    It is not a war. It is crime HUGE difference.

    There is no organized group, system or ideology to rape women. The idea it is some kind of war on women is utter nonsense.
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    Re: Is there a "War on Women" in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    Those are far higher numbers than those of our soldiers killed in Iraq. Yes, it's a war, and it should be taken seriously.
    Please tell us....who is responsible for the war? Who is fighting the women? Who is the leader? Who are the generals?
    Who are the soldiers? How are they organized and who issues the orders?

    Please describe the warring entity that is attacking the women of America.

    Please.

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    Re: Is there a "War on Women" in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    Those are far higher numbers than those of our soldiers killed in Iraq. Yes, it's a war, and it should be taken seriously.
    War is not defined by number of people killed. If it was, then your rape example wouldn't work and a War on Automobiles, Poisons, or FALLING would be far larger than the War on Terror.

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    Re: Is there a "War on Women" in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Then what are you talking about when stating:



    What rehashing of the necessity of birth control being available has occured? It would seem you're talking about the recent debate concerning birth control and health care, but if you're not what "rehashing" of that are you talking about?
    Yes: issues of 'we should ban certain forms of contraception becaues of how it prevents pregnancy/gestation/conception" - etc . . . stuff like that. At present: that is not the debate in the political arena or social arena - but it's been around in my lifetime and will likely come around again.

    Sorry, I should have been more specific with my statement - I left it vague.
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    Re: Is there a "War on Women" in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Who here is saying sexism doesn't exist?
    A number of posters have said that women are socially above men, and men deal with more sexism today than women. I have seen at least four male members post that while there isn't a war on women, there is war on women.

    What seems to be suggested is it isn't some epedimic that is systematic across the country that is "warring against" Women to deny them rights.

    You experienced Sexism. Wow that sucks. You've ran into some jerks.



    As I said before, the most troubling thing about this thread isn't the topic. It's the dismissive tone of the posters towards sexism and reverse sexism, and this says about us in terms of social and gender issues. I have seen a number of posters say men have it the worst, and white men have the worst, and now this... Sexism and being disrespected for something you can't help (gender, disability, race, etc.) does exist and it can be hurtful, and to some people experiencing it, it's very disparaging and humiliating.

    I have never made a joke nor made light of the bigotry, racism, discrimination, or sexism anybody else has ever encountered or had to deal with. Again the attitude running through this thread is the most troubling for me. Instead of dismissing the sexism of others, and crying that men have it worse then women, we should realize that every sexist attitude towards a woman has an equally sexist reaction for men.

    If women are told their are submissive, emotional, and better at parenting... then men are expected to provide, show no emotion, and always pay child support and never get custody of children in a divorce suit.

    Such facts should be common sense. Sexism shouldn't a part of our culture we decide to surrender ourselves to and accept with defeat. Sexism and disrespect towards any gender or person shouldn't be something we tolerate, shrug off, or dismiss.

    I dare you to find me anyone that hasn't had bad things happen in their life because of assholes, jerks, or bitches before. Simply because some of their jerkiness to you was because you're a female doesn't make you any more special or a precious snow flake than someone who had people act like a jerk towards them because they're white, or a male, or young, or a geek, or unpopular, or too trusting, or black, or foreign, or gay, or shy, or any other reason.
    Did I ever say I am special for any reason at all? Seems like you have pitched a fit over nothing. Obviously you seem offended by me stating that sexism exists, and you admit that it does. Why is it so offensive for me to bring it up and mention it?

    Seriously, save for one or two admitted extermists in here, I don't think anyone is saying that sexism just doesn't exist or that there aren't still sexists in the world. But that's SIGNIFICANTLY differnet then suggesting there's some kind of sizable, legitimate, meaningful, "war on women" going on.
    FTR, I never said there was a war on women. If you go back and read my statements, you would see that I have said the very opposite. I don't agree with the slogan. It's divisive. It's not going to unite women. Women will think about the term war, and feel they are not undergoing war.

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    Re: Is there a "War on Women" in the United States?

    No

    I'm not in favor of declaring "war" on an abstract concept, be it women, poverty, drugs, etc.

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