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    Re: Is there a "War on Women" in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    Yes....and No.

    Even without Rush, Santorum, and the Evangelical wing...The right does seem rather set on dismissing women as a general rule, this does not however constitute warfare...more a wish to keep things the way they were.

    The left does seem a bit more compassionate, but likely this is simply to differentiate from the left, and not be counted amongst them in the minds of 50% of voters.
    Is it dismissive when Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann are major player who spout the same rhetoric?

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    Re: Is there a "War on Women" in the United States?

    There is a war on Liberty.

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    Re: Is there a "War on Women" in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Is it dismissive when Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann are major player who spout the same rhetoric?
    Thank you for pointing this out, as I try not to consider these women overly much and thus tend to neglect them in my opinions. It does point to another dramatic example of of my post intent.

    Those women the right does decide to put forward, are very poor examples of the gender...and we wont even talk about witchy-poo, or Arizona.

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    Re: Is there a "War on Women" in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Because some statistics are deceiving: people think that statistics can be a true measure of reality - but really - it just reflects the effects taht government forced regulations and measures have.
    Statistics are not deceiving, people trying to twist them to take advantage are deceiving. Numbers are just numbers and have no agenda at all. They in some cases reflect some effects of government in some they do not. In this case it has literally nothing to do with it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Take the false-reality away and you see that we haven't gotten as far as people think - because people's opinions are usually the last thing to change.
    What false reality? Please point out these magical statistics that change reality?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Also - people just look around and believe that women have it good, for whatever reason - the government finaly gave us the right to vote so everything's great. Or you have sexist dingdongs running around parading false ideas taht women secretly rule the world - or something - and we're evil. LOL
    Now you just went over the top. No one has said or implied anything even close.

    Now their are some people out in the world who believe this, men and women but it does not apply here or to the fictional "war on Women."
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Is there a "War on Women" in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    Those women the right does decide to put forward, are very poor examples of the gender...and we wont even talk about witchy-poo, or Arizona.
    Remember, when it comes to the "War on Women", it only counts if as warfare if you're insulting or treating differently or speaking in a deragatory fashion about liberal women or women in general. Conservative women...fair game! They're like the female version of uncle toms (or as they're more classicly called today, black conservatives).

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    Re: Is there a "War on Women" in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Remember, when it comes to the "War on Women", it only counts if as warfare if you're insulting or treating differently or speaking in a deragatory fashion about liberal women or women in general. Conservative women...fair game! They're like the female version of uncle toms (or as they're more classicly called today, black conservatives).
    Repeated for truth.

    This is an absolute fact.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Is there a "War on Women" in the United States?

    I can't help but think this whole discussion (minus the poll) belongs in the "conspiracy theory" section.

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    Re: Is there a "War on Women" in the United States?

    I don't think there is a war on women. If there is I surrrender.
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    Re: Is there a "War on Women" in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    Those women the right does decide to put forward, are very poor examples of the gender...and we wont even talk about witchy-poo, or Arizona.
    You're correct that they are very poor examples of the gender. Just like Margaret Thatcher, Hillary Clinton, and every other female involved in politics is.

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    Re: Is there a "War on Women" in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Statistics are not deceiving, people trying to twist them to take advantage are deceiving. Numbers are just numbers and have no agenda at all. They in some cases reflect some effects of government in some they do not. In this case it has literally nothing to do with it.



    What false reality? Please point out these magical statistics that change reality?



    Now you just went over the top. No one has said or implied anything even close.

    Now their are some people out in the world who believe this, men and women but it does not apply here or to the fictional "war on Women."
    Don't pretend that the entire world can be summarized accurately in numbers - numbers are an attempt to explain and keep track, they don't account for everything. . . and the ycan be misleading when other things that are heavily involved cannot be mapped.

    anyone who is a statistician knows this - it's a flaw. Doesn't mean they're not useful or beneficial - but numbers don't always paint the entire picture. You can't pretend that they do.
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