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    Re: Is there a "War on Women" in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    Insurance companies are being forced to provide contraceptives free of charge. You know as well as I do that contraceptives are not free. The folks you are accusing of trying to "take away" birth control simply do not want insurance companies to be forced to provide services free of charge or object to contributing to such services through co-pays. No one is removing the ability to acquire contraceptives as you claimed earlier.
    Free? Isn't it the same rules as any other service insurance pays for?

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    Re: Is there a "War on Women" in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Just so we are clear...there is a "war on women" because Men AND women are opposed to the wholesale slaughter of unborn children and because about a month ago the president decided to try to force certain religious groups to provide contraceptives and the religious groups said **** you...so...where exactly is this 'war on women'???

    Because the "prolife" movement accepted the Catholic agenda of declaring using birth control pills, patches and injections is the woman "murdering" fertilized eggs - thus women on birth control are MASS MURDERS of many children every year - thus denying women a reasonably reliable method of controlling whether or not she has children - and when. Instead, prolife demands that MEN have essentially total control via condoms - easily sabotaged with the woman knowing and known to fail.

    To this, prolife sneers a married couple has to pick between having unwanted babies or never having sex - just also joining Catholic Vatican doctrine that all sex - except for procreation and in marriage is evil and sinful.

    The target, always, of the Catholic church has been women to extremes and still is, with Republicans joining in the growing list of degradations and disempowering women - transferring all power to men.

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    Re: Is there a "War on Women" in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Because the "prolife" movement accepted the Catholic agenda of declaring using birth control pills, patches and injections is the woman "murdering" fertilized eggs - thus women on birth control are MASS MURDERS of many children every year - thus denying women a reasonably reliable method of controlling whether or not she has children - and when. Instead, prolife demands that MEN have essentially total control via condoms - easily sabotaged with the woman knowing and known to fail.

    To this, prolife sneers a married couple has to pick between having unwanted babies or never having sex - just also joining Catholic Vatican doctrine that all sex - except for procreation and in marriage is evil and sinful.

    The target, always, of the Catholic church has been women to extremes and still is, with Republicans joining in the growing list of degradations and disempowering women - transferring all power to men.
    So again...for the record...NOT a 'war on women"...ideological differences and a bunch of judgmental inteolerant pricks that cant respect peoples beliefs. I get it.

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    Re: Is there a "War on Women" in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    So again...for the record...NOT a 'war on women"...ideological differences and a bunch of judgmental inteolerant pricks that cant respect peoples beliefs. I get it.
    Ideological differences are fine... until someone codifies his/her own ideological difference into law, and forces it on everyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Ideological differences are fine... until someone codifies his/her own ideological difference into law, and forces it on everyone else.
    Something both (all) sides are doing right now. However this 'war on women' is nothing more than ginned up political rhetoric.

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    Re: Is there a "War on Women" in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Who wants to ban birth control?
    Rick Santorum.
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    Re: Is there a "War on Women" in the United States?

    I think it's funny and hyppocritical.

    "Separation of church and state!!!!! Keep your God out of my bedroom/womb/pornograpy/schools etc."

    Separation of church and state goes both ways. The state has no business legislating the morality of religious institutions and forcing them to go against their convictions. Keep the state out of churches/religious organizations. It's wrong for them to force them to cover birth control when their religious values prohibit it.
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    Re: Is there a "War on Women" in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I think it's funny and hyppocritical.

    "Separation of church and state!!!!! Keep your God out of my bedroom/womb/pornograpy/schools etc."

    Separation of church and state goes both ways. The state has no business legislating the morality of religious institutions and forcing them to go against their convictions. Keep the state out of churches/religious organizations. It's wrong for them to force them to cover birth control when their religious values prohibit it.
    Okay, okay, I'll make you a deal. Let's cut off ALL tax exemption statuses to churches who run businesses and play politics (and trust me, there are quite a few of them). We'll use the difference to pay for the birth control. Deal?
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    Re: Is there a "War on Women" in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I think it's funny and hyppocritical.

    "Separation of church and state!!!!! Keep your God out of my bedroom/womb/pornograpy/schools etc."

    Separation of church and state goes both ways. The state has no business legislating the morality of religious institutions and forcing them to go against their convictions. Keep the state out of churches/religious organizations. It's wrong for them to force them to cover birth control when their religious values prohibit it.

    Well then the Churches can stay out of the public sector if they don't want to play by the rules others do that participate in the PUBLIC sector.

    Oh and BTW I am speaking as a Texan.
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    Re: Is there a "War on Women" in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Well then the Churches can stay out of the public sector if they don't want to play by the rules others do that participate in the PUBLIC sector.
    The churches and institutions can pick whatever healthcare packages they want for their employees. There should be no one forcing them (or insurance companies) to cover birth control. Personally, I think it's absurd to force birth control to be completely covered under insurances. It's not a medically necessary medication and our priorities are far out of whack with this.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Okay, okay, I'll make you a deal. Let's cut off ALL tax exemption statuses to churches who run businesses and play politics (and trust me, there are quite a few of them). We'll use the difference to pay for the birth control. Deal?
    Or, we can respect the Constitution and respect freedom of religion and let non-profits remain as non-profits.
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