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Should we tolerate racist views that are based on religion?

Should we tolerate racist views that are based on religion?

  • Yes. Free expression of religion must always be respected.

    Votes: 3 11.5%
  • Yes, but only if its not harrassing, stalking, or legislation.

    Votes: 5 19.2%
  • No. Keep your religiously-based hatred to yourself.

    Votes: 10 38.5%
  • No. We should seek to end this completely.

    Votes: 8 30.8%

  • Total voters
    26
Thanks, not sure they represent any real Christian religion though. I don't think any would claim them

They aren't, they're just a neo-nazi front that has 'revised' the origins of Jews to suit antisemitism, claiming white people are the true Jews of the Old Testament and not modern Jews. They're pretty much idiots. If you're up for some entertainment I can find the forum where Martin Lindstedt hangs out; he's a big deal in that 'movement', that is if they haven't had yet another of their frequent rounds of infighting and falling outs calling each other Feds, informants, traitors, etc. over 'leading the Movement'. Hey, they're nazis, so what do you expect? ..

'Pastor' Lindstedt is actually pretty polite to strangers and is more than willing to explain it all to you, complete with sources and links.

as well as that Nut and his family that protest at all those military funerals.... I think every religion in this country has condemned them. They are fanatics.

If you're referring to that Fred Phelps group they aren't Christians, either, they're just atheists conducting a guerrilla theater type thing. Most outsiders who have interviewed them or hung around them say they never even talk about religion at all, much less Christianity, and given Phelp's history that's very likely true. I think Thunder would be happy in both groups.

Ah .. here it is. You may have to register and log in to see his forum, unless they've banned him again, but they'll know where to find him. he has, shall we say, a unique writing style with the English language as well ... lol

http://stumbleinn.net/forum/index.php

See this Google search for Lindstedt as well. He was locked up in the loony bin for a while.

Mad Marty
 
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lol it seems Pastor Marty is still being intermittently excommunicated ....
Dual Seedline Christian Identity Pastor Martin Lindstedt takes a licking, but keeps on ticking. Despite the takedown of six of his websites, including his Talkshoe portal, instigated by members of the Christian Identity Forum, Lindstedt has found a way to continue producing episodes of The Movement Turd.

In episode #59, Lindstedt discusses, among other things, his reaction to the takedown of his Talkshoe portal. Since this development is being reported as current events, this post fully complies with the Terms of Service of Blogger. Two parts of episode #59 are embedded below:





Lindstedt provides some written commentary HERE. The best way to protest censorship is to openly challenge it. What I think about Lindstedt's content is irrelevant to the situation. When all is said and done, Martin Lindstedt is still pro-White.



Background: For those who are unfamiliar with the situation between the Christian Identity Forum and Martin Lindstedt, here's a short synopsis, as best as I remember it. The feud between the DSCI hobbyist who posts on Christian Identity Forum under the nickname Sword Brethren and DSCI Pastor Martin Lindstedt has been going on for nearly four months now. Initially triggered by Lindstedt posting a photoshopped picture of Sword Brethren, it's escalated until Sword Brethren triggered a series of ambiguous and questionable ToS complaints, citing unsubstantiated death threats, to various hosts leading to the takedown of six of Lindstedt's websites, most recently his Talkshoe channel. Had this strictly remained a one-on-one situation between Sword Brethren and Martin Lindstedt, I would have taken only passing notice of it.

But it did not remain one-on-one. Sword Brethren decided to escalate the campaign and expand it against several third-party websites which merely allowed Lindstedt to post, most notably The Beer Barrel, Stumble Inn, and Nimbusters. All three permit pro-White activists to post with minimal reservation, thus they are White-friendly sites. This implies that Sword Brethren is misusing the ToS complaint system to censor other websites which publish information critical of him and dictate their content. In other words, Sword Brethren is using the ToS complaint system as a weapon of political warfare against Lindstedt in much the same fashion as Alaska ethics crusader Andree McLeod used the ethics complaint system as a weapon of political warfare against Sarah Palin when Palin was still governor. Sword Brethren seems to believe that even though his real name is already a matter of public record, no one else has a right to publish it in a post.


White Reference: DSCI Pastor Martin Lindstedt Discusses The Takedown Of His Talkshoe Site On Episode #59 Of The Movement Turd

You just can't make this up. It's hilarious.
 
They aren't, they're just a neo-nazi front that has 'revised' the origins of Jews to suit antisemitism, claiming white people are the true Jews of the Old Testament and not modern Jews. They're pretty much idiots. If you're up for some entertainment I can find the forum where Martin Lindstedt hangs out; he's a big deal in that 'movement', that is if they haven't had yet another of their frequent rounds of infighting and falling outs calling each other Feds, informants, traitors, etc. over 'leading the Movement'. Hey, they're nazis, so what do you expect? ..

'Pastor' Lindstedt is actually pretty polite to strangers and is more than willing to explain it all to you, complete with sources and links.




If you're referring to that Fred Phelps group they aren't Christians, either, they're just atheists conducting a guerrilla theater type thing. Most outsiders who have interviewed them or hung around them say they never even talk about religion at all, much less Christianity, and given Phelp's history that's very likely true. I think Thunder would be happy in both groups.

Ah .. here it is. You may have to register and log in to see his forum, unless they've banned him again, but they'll know where to find him. he has, shall we say, a unique writing style with the English language as well ... lol

Stumble Inn - Powered by vBulletin

See this Google search for Lindstedt as well. He was locked up in the loony bin for a while.

Mad Marty

Wow,interesting forum, I may have to spend some time there, it's like driving by a car wreck, you don't want too but you somehow just have to look. thanks, I think. LOL
 
Wow,interesting forum, I may have to spend some time there, it's like driving by a car wreck, you don't want too but you somehow just have to look. thanks, I think. LOL

Indeed. And, Lindstedt's forum is still at the Stumble Inn, but you do have to register and log in to see it. It's certainly more entertaining than the usual run of the mill neo-nazi stuff; you should read his stuff at least once. He is fairly personable to 'polite' strangers, if you can avoid baiting him. Ask him about the 'dual seedline' thing and the Scythians. lol ...
 
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They aren't, they're just a neo-nazi front that has 'revised' the origins of Jews to suit antisemitism, claiming white people are the true Jews of the Old Testament and not modern Jews. They're pretty much idiots. If you're up for some entertainment I can find the forum where Martin Lindstedt hangs out; he's a big deal in that 'movement', that is if they haven't had yet another of their frequent rounds of infighting and falling outs calling each other Feds, informants, traitors, etc. over 'leading the Movement'. Hey, they're nazis, so what do you expect? ..

'Pastor' Lindstedt is actually pretty polite to strangers and is more than willing to explain it all to you, complete with sources and links.



If you're referring to that Fred Phelps group they aren't Christians, either, they're just atheists conducting a guerrilla theater type thing. Most outsiders who have interviewed them or hung around them say they never even talk about religion at all, much less Christianity, and given Phelp's history that's very likely true. I think Thunder would be happy in both groups.

Ah .. here it is. You may have to register and log in to see his forum, unless they've banned him again, but they'll know where to find him. he has, shall we say, a unique writing style with the English language as well ... lol

Stumble Inn - Powered by vBulletin

See this Google search for Lindstedt as well. He was locked up in the loony bin for a while.

Mad Marty

Thanks I will check it out.
 
Well since no religions in this country tolerate racism this poll is moot.
 
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I have a flash for you...LDS has black members..........

do you read peoples posts or just make stuff up in your head? read his whole post and see if you missed anything important
 
I have a flash for you...LDS has black members..........

no ****.

did you read the part where I say "1978"?

I guess not.

the fact is that if one wants to, they can read MANY Christian & Jewish teachings, and use them to justify & excuse racism.

and I say, that such excuses for racism.....are bull**** and mean nothing.

religious justifications for bigotry..are trash.
 
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no ****.

did you read the part where I say "1978"?

I guess not.

the fact is that if one wants to, they can read MANY Christian & Jewish teachings, and use them to justify & excuse racism.

and I say, that such excuses for racism.....are bull**** and mean nothing.

religious justifications for bigotry..are trash.



Yeah and its irrelevent................Today they are integrated with all races.......don't tell me about 1978.
 
I stand by my statement..........In the year 2012 with maybe the exception being radical Islams there are no major religions that believe in Racism unless they are the Revs Jackson, Sharpton and Wright. or the Rev Farrakhan.
 
I stand by my statement..........In the year 2012 with maybe the exception being radical Islams there are no major religions that believe in Racism unless they are the Revs Jackson, Sharpton and Wright. or the Rev Farrakhan.
Study Links Religious Groups and Racial Bias - USC News

“Religious groups distinguish between believers and non-believers and moral people and immoral ones,” Wood said. “So perhaps it’s no surprise that the strongly religious people in our research, who were mostly white Christians, discriminated against others who were different from them — blacks and minorities.”
Most of the studies reviewed by Wood’s team focused on Christians because Christianity is the most common religion in the United States.
Her analysis found significantly less racism among people without strong religious beliefs.
 
I have a flash for you...LDS has black members..........

It's tempting to mention Glady Knight, just for the sake of using her as a “poster child” for black Mormons; but in truth, the vast majority of black Mormons are ordinary people, just like everyone else, and it's not really fair to hold up a world-famous celebrity as representative of a larger, less famous group of people.
 
If you ever read the history of Mormons as I have you realize they were a crazy cult. They had some really whacked out ideas and did some horrific things in history, the Mt meadows massacre for instance. They have kind of folded into the main stream now but there is still some Mormons practicing polygamy that consider more mainstream Mormons to be heretics and no longer Mormon.
 
I read Genesis 9:20-27. I did not find any mention of skin color, only that Canaan shall be a servant of servants.

I mean, come on, taking that curse (aren't curses more for witches and warlocks?) and getting black skin out of said curse, is impossible.
 
The use of the word 'race' meant something entirely different before the modern era. Different tribes and even different cultures were considered different 'races'; there were the 'German race', the 'French race', the 'Greek race', et cetera, et cetera, so yes, you're correct.
 
I read Genesis 9:20-27. I did not find any mention of skin color, only that Canaan shall be a servant of servants.

I mean, come on, taking that curse (aren't curses more for witches and warlocks?) and getting black skin out of said curse, is impossible.

there are other religious books & writings, besides the Bible.
 
I stand by my statement..........In the year 2012 with maybe the exception being radical Islams there are no major religions that believe in Racism unless they are the Revs Jackson, Sharpton and Wright. or the Rev Farrakhan.

your statement was irrelevant to the thread.

a religion doesn't have to officially endorse racism, for its members to use religious texts to justify/excuse racism.
 
Is uncle crusty like the main nazi guy?

I don't know, I haven't lurked there in a couple of years and didn't look around this time. The mention of 'Christian Identity' reminded me of Lindstedt so I dug up the link.

You'll have to register and log in to see Pastor Lindstedt's forum 'LindstedtMania'.

It's noteworthy that Ron Paul has raised millions from that 'subculture', and at VNN and some of the other sites for 'activists' listed in the 'White Reference' link. They loves them some Ron Paul. Not all of them are Americans, of course, but ole Paul has got the majority of their votes and a pocketful of their money over the years.

They're big on 'raising racial awareness' and periodically launching 'campaigns', spamming sites like this one and most others, and many of them also run what they call 'False Flag operations', pretending to be an 'anti-Israeli Jew' is a big favorite, as well as pretending to be a 'Libertarian'. I don't doubt that at least a few of them post here under one of those memes.

Posters like Thunder and sharon as well as many of the self-described 'Libertarians' always raise red flags for me on these boards.
 
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