View Poll Results: Should we tolerate racist views that are based on religion?

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  • Yes. Free expression of religion must always be respected.

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  • Yes, but only if its not harrassing, stalking, or legislation.

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  • No. Keep your religiously-based hatred to yourself.

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  • No. We should seek to end this completely.

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    Re: Should we tolerate racist views that are based on religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Racism is racism...regardless of the origin teaching racism. There comes a time in all our lives when we "all" should be able to recognize the social damage caused by all of the "isms"...along with all of the bigoted beliefs that people possess.

    Unfortunately, when a person has been socialized as a racists either by family members, neighborhood, churches, schools...or whatever...and racism is supported or in some way reinforced. It's really difficult to erase those teachings and reinforcements in such people. They genuinely believe that such beliefs are normal, justified, reasoned out...logical.

    It's sad. But it is what it is.

    Nobody is biased free. But there's a difference between thinking bias and acting on those biases.

    Bigotry is by far the more obvious than is racism, in my humble opinion.
    speaking of "isms" you should watch both episodes of go god go from south park.
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    Re: Should we tolerate racist views that are based on religion?

    Racist views/feelings are okay. Acting on them is not.
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    Re: Should we tolerate racist views that are based on religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    By some traditions, the punishment/mark of Cain....was black skin.

    Curse and mark of Cain - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    And again, some believe that the descendants of Ham, who was punished by God, became modern-day blacks.

    Curse of Ham - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    So, since racism against blacks can sometimes be considered to be motivated by religion, should we be expected to have more tolerance for such beliefs...as a way of respecting religion?

    some argue that since homophobia is sometimes motivated/excused by religion, homophobia should be tolerated as religious-expression. I want to know how far we should tolerate bigotry, as a form of religious expression.


    What do you mean, should we tolerate?

    As in, should we forbid people from speaking such things and throw them into prison if they do?

    As in, should we pass laws making their beliefs a hate crime?

    As in, should those who disagree with them be free to criticise their beliefs?

    My answers are no, no and yes.

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    Re: Should we tolerate racist views that are based on religion?

    The problem with racist religions is they tend to be violent. We once had alot of white supremest where I live, they were burning crosses in yards, harassing blacks, Mexicans, Jews etc not to mention robbing banks to finance their hate so I say no, don't tolerate them. We didn't tolerate them here, they pretty much got run out on a rail.

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    Re: Should we tolerate racist views that are based on religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    By some traditions, the punishment/mark of Cain....was black skin.

    Curse and mark of Cain - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    And again, some believe that the descendants of Ham, who was punished by God, became modern-day blacks.

    Curse of Ham - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    So, since racism against blacks can sometimes be considered to be motivated by religion, should we be expected to have more tolerance for such beliefs...as a way of respecting religion?

    some argue that since homophobia is sometimes motivated/excused by religion, homophobia should be tolerated as religious-expression. I want to know how far we should tolerate bigotry, as a form of religious expression.
    We should tolerate all racist views regardless of origin. So long as one is not actually infringing upon the rights of others, they should be allowed to do as they want.
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    Re: Should we tolerate racist views that are based on religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    speaking of "isms" you should watch both episodes of go god go from south park.
    I'll check it out...I'm a fan of South Park. I'm sure I'll have to find an episode number.

    Never mind...I found it...and watching it.
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    Re: Should we tolerate racist views that are based on religion?

    The actions that follow the racism is what makes the thought appalling. We all have areas where we are not so politically correct. Mine is easy I am strongly anti-religion and express it unkindly at times. I can be just as anti-religion as I want but when I express this in ways that are hurtful to others I have stepped over the line. It's not exactly racism but on the same level. Gay slurs are a form of this and when they become hurtful to others people need to draw a line. Feminism is attacked in the same way with words. Blacks have suffered word attacks in every way possible. We can all hold our tongue and be more civil to other. I do step over the line in the area of religion. I know better. When the actions turn to violence they are criminal.
    Should we tolerate religious views that are racist. I don't think there is any reason to tolerate racism.
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    Re: Should we tolerate racist views that are based on religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    By some traditions, the punishment/mark of Cain....was black skin.

    Curse and mark of Cain - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    And again, some believe that the descendants of Ham, who was punished by God, became modern-day blacks.

    Curse of Ham - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    So, since racism against blacks can sometimes be considered to be motivated by religion, should we be expected to have more tolerance for such beliefs...as a way of respecting religion?

    some argue that since homophobia is sometimes motivated/excused by religion, homophobia should be tolerated as religious-expression. I want to know how far we should tolerate bigotry, as a form of religious expression.

    Personally, I'm somewhat intolerant of religion, generally. But I see your point, and it's a good one.

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    Re: Should we tolerate racist views that are based on religion?

    Hate nothing except hatred.

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    Re: Should we tolerate racist views that are based on religion?

    people are free to tolerate, or not tolerate, anything they wish.

    personally, tolerate most beliefs... but I do not tolerate assholes.... I am openly intolerant, and sometimes even violent, to assholes.

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