View Poll Results: Should we tolerate racist views that are based on religion?

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  • Yes. Free expression of religion must always be respected.

    8 18.60%
  • Yes, but only if its not harrassing, stalking, or legislation.

    6 13.95%
  • No. Keep your religiously-based hatred to yourself.

    19 44.19%
  • No. We should seek to end this completely.

    10 23.26%
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    Re: Should we tolerate racist views that are based on religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    the poll is about folks using religion to justify their racism.

    I gave examples of things in religions that are racist.

    don't like it? don't answer the poll.
    And I said beside a few nut cakes there are none.

    why do you think hardly no one has answered your poll?
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    Re: Should we tolerate racist views that are based on religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    And I said beside a few nut cakes there are none.

    why do you think hardly no one has answered your poll?
    i don't give a ****, as there are lots of responses to the thread.

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    Re: Should we tolerate racist views that are based on religion?

    So for those who say we shouldn't tolerate it, what are we gonna do about it then? If we find someone spouting racist crap, do we go beat them up? Do we throw them in jail? Fine them? What sort of force are you looking to employ in order to not tolerate “racism”?
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    Re: Should we tolerate racist views that are based on religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So for those who say we shouldn't tolerate it, what are we gonna do about it then? If we find someone spouting racist crap, do we go beat them up? Do we throw them in jail? Fine them? What sort of force are you looking to employ in order to not tolerate “racism”?
    we shouldn't make exceptions for religiously-inspired harrassment, bullying, etc etc.

    if its a crime or offense when its not motivated by religion, then the same goes if it is motivated by religion.

    all im saying is, religion should not be used as an excuse to lessen the significance of a personal attack. and we shouldn't tolerate it either.

    bigotry is bigotry, regardless of your reasons.

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    Re: Should we tolerate racist views that are based on religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    we shouldn't make exceptions for religiously-inspired harrassment, bullying, etc etc.

    if its a crime or offense when its not motivated by religion, then the same goes if it is motivated by religion.

    all im saying is, religion should not be used as an excuse to lessen the significance of a personal attack. and we shouldn't tolerate it either.

    bigotry is bigotry, regardless of your reasons.
    I think on some level people have gotten a bit too French on bullying and "harrassment" and many times think that they shouldn't have to hear the other side. We do already have laws which make a lot of things illegal (we have too many laws and I think it's likely near impossible to go about your day without violating some laws), but that doesn't mean that we should be adding to the pile (particularly when the pile needs to be cleaned up).

    If you're talking about something like Westboro and that they shouldn't be allowed to show the world their stupidity; than I will disagree with any use of force against their right to assembly, protest, and speech on the grounds that it's somehow "harrassment". If some jerk says you're going to hell, that ain't bullying or harrassment. It's a jerk being a jerk.

    I'm tired of playing to the lowest common denominator, it's really taking us down a bad path. Stupid people are stupid and there's no law against stupid. Sure you can point and laugh at their stupid asses; but that's probably the most response necessary. Other than that, ignore them.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Should we tolerate racist views that are based on religion?

    Westboro doesn't do anything illegal, so no....we can't stop them.

    but we can counter-protest their religion-inspired hatred & prejudice.

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    Re: Should we tolerate racist views that are based on religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Westboro doesn't do anything illegal, so no....we can't stop them.

    but we can counter-protest their religion-inspired hatred & prejudice.
    Of course you can. And if you feel it's worth your time, then you should by all means do just that. I think they're a gaggle of morons and don't deserve the time of day.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Should we tolerate racist views that are based on religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post

    If you're talking about something like Westboro and that they shouldn't be allowed to show the world their stupidity; than I will disagree with any use of force against their right to assembly, protest, and speech on the grounds that it's somehow "harrassment". If some jerk says you're going to hell, that ain't bullying or harrassment. It's a jerk being a jerk.
    I would strongly disagree. These frauds are targeting funerals, which are private, and no place for silly, ridiculous 'protesting'. It's pretty much impossible to bury your relatives in your living room or in your back yard these days, for a number of legitimate reasons. Some leeway and discretion in 'freedoms' is acceptable, and just because some technicality invented by lawyers has allowed them to do so from public roads is all right with your particular political fever swamp doesn't mean all common sense should be tossed out the window, especially in cases like funerals.

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    Re: Should we tolerate racist views that are based on religion?

    Not one of those posts of mine accused you of bigotry......... Do you have a reading comprehension?

    Nor did anybody else's posts; he's just playing a bad game of 'I Touched You Last !!!! because he has no point worth discussing and, as the thread was going off in other direction, he wasn't the center of attention any more.
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    Re: Should we tolerate racist views that are based on religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    Nor did anybody else's posts; he's just playing a bad game of 'I Touched You Last !!!! because he has no point worth discussing and, as the thread was going off in other direction, he wasn't the center of attention any more.
    yeah, that's it. you got me.


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