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Is it time to cut and run from Afghanistan?

Is it time to cut and run from Afghanistan?

  • Yes, as quickly as possible

    Votes: 28 87.5%
  • No, we should stay and continue the mission.

    Votes: 4 12.5%

  • Total voters
    32
so you advocate burning hundreds of billions of dollars of equipment?sounds kinda stupid the gear we use in iraq and afghanistan is so freakin retarded expensive,i dounbt anyone can advocate throwing it out with the deficit the way it is,oh and wed have to pay even more money to replace it when the war is over.

explain how throwing away what takes some units decades to aquire is in anyway fonancially sound.

Ok, let me explain it this way. We have no use for that equipment. We have no business fighting wars. We have become to weak to fight to win. We should burn it all and bring our troops home.
 
Ok, let me explain it this way. We have no use for that equipment. We have no business fighting wars. We have become to weak to fight to win. We should burn it all and bring our troops home.

but its still government waste.

lets say by example out equipment there is worth 700 billion most of which aquired over decades.

we leave afghanistan and burn it,then we get drawn into war a few years later,you basically are advocation taking all weve gained over the years and thowing it away.


this isnt vietnam where soldiers are handed a steel pot an etool a rifle some ammo and a few grenades then let loose into the jungle.

one truck used in that war lets say a humvee is 150-190k for an uparmored.some of our trucks cost 1.5 mil a piece.alot of our generators cost 20-40k a piece.

they arent always just civilian equivilant,alot of those have high dollar emp shielding to survive a nuclear blast.

my old unit alone if it had to leave its gear in afghanistan would have to wait a decade to get enough funds to replace it just to do training excersises properly.cant run an ftx without a generator,cant train soldiers to drive a humvee without a humvee.so your entre notion is based on no threats will happen but more on that no president will be a douche and start wars,looking at obamas current record i dont think thats gonna happen,republicans are rooting for the same war team.
 
I am old soldier, I understand that it takes time to acquire the equipment required to fullfill TOE. I am just frustrated with our politicians and there lack of understanding when it comes to warfare and what it takes to accomplish the mission.
 
I am old soldier, I understand that it takes time to acquire the equipment required to fullfill TOE. I am just frustrated with our politicians and there lack of understanding when it comes to warfare and what it takes to accomplish the mission.

all of us can agree the war is a waste at this point,but if you look at the costs of what we have,we are still paying that equipment and still will be for decades,throwing it out is like buying a new truck and giving it away for free after only 2 payments.

we will get out and we are already trying,its just not gonna be quick like people want,more like the area of two years.
 
Its really a tough call. I hate to cut and run but I feel that the people of Afghnistan don't want us there......Some of the friendlies are even shooting our guys in the back.........I Russian tried and they could not get the job done either.............The main thing is we got OBL. This is nothing like Viet Nam.......

I pity the women though........
 
I am old soldier, I understand that it takes time to acquire the equipment required to fullfill TOE. I am just frustrated with our politicians and there lack of understanding when it comes to warfare and what it takes to accomplish the mission.
I agree with you. It is precisely because I dont trust the politicians that I want to end the war.
 
After the most recent events in Afghanistan, is it time to cut our losses and bring the troops home?

Not yes, but hell yes! What the hell are we accomplishing now that is going to last after we leave?
 
I absolutely think that we should leave afghanistan. There is nothing we did over there that could be misconstrued as protecting America. The majority of the people are too lazy to help themselves, and want to suckle on the power tit that is the US.

Ok, let me explain it this way. We have no use for that equipment. We have no business fighting wars. We have become to weak to fight to win. We should burn it all and bring our troops home.


Now, as far as the equipment goes, it just needs to follow a simple equation:
Let x be the cost of burning the equipment and buying new stuff, and y be the cost of bringing the equipment home.
If x << y, I say burn it, cut the loss. If x > y, then keep it. Now, we naturally won't be needing as much equipment if we weren't being the world police, but that equipment can still be used for legitimate national defense.
 
Ok, let me explain it this way. We have no use for that equipment. We have no business fighting wars. We have become to weak to fight to win. We should burn it all and bring our troops home.
Won't that equipment be useful when the USA invades Syria and then Iran?

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Cut and run no, get out yes. I don't want to see a repeat of Nam, troops being shot at as they leave, people hanging from overloaded choppers and air craft being dumped over board to make room for more, not to mention military equipment being left behind.
 
We are we wasting our peoples lives for some others and without and fixed goal, so its better to take our troops back and leave Afghanistan on its condition.
 
After the most recent events in Afghanistan, is it time to cut our losses and bring the troops home?



"cut and run"? funny, you suggesting the troops would be "running" from anything. Our job is done there time to bring them home, your inflammatory language is noted.
 
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Petty? As a war veteran I find the use of "cutting and running" from from likes who would never personally "go" in the first place, annoying.

Yeah well, you find the Veterans against the war annoying too, so.................?
 
Petty? As a war veteran I find the use of "cutting and running" from from likes who would never personally "go" in the first place, annoying.

So the answer would be yes, it was...cut and run was used to mean withdraw from conflict...maybe if you weren't so anxious to find fault in every one of my posts, you might add something constructive to a conversation...might be too much to ask, i know...
 
Yeah well, you find the Veterans against the war annoying too, so.................?


I respect veterans against the war, the Veterans against the Iraq war group however is a schill group, who is notably quiet these days.


I know many veterans against the war, so I no not what your point is. Thanks.
 
So the answer would be yes, it was...cut and run was used to mean withdraw from conflict...maybe if you weren't so anxious to find fault in every one of my posts, you might add something constructive to a conversation...might be too much to ask, i know...



hey, unlike you I was willing to go, you would think you would have more respect for the troops instead of using inflammatory language given they were willing to do that you were not. this is part of your issue, you use trollish, inflammatory language, then you pretend to wonder why you are not received well. Spending 10 years in country, we, would not be "cutting and running" as the job is done.
 
hey, unlike you I was willing to go, you would think you would have more respect for the troops instead of using inflammatory language given they were willing to do that you were not. this is part of your issue, you use trollish, inflammatory language, then you pretend to wonder why you are not received well. Spending 10 years in country, we, would not be "cutting and running" as the job is done.

Funny, no one in the last 65 posts prior to yours was offended by my "trollish, inflammatory language"...one other poster didn't agree with my wording, but didn't feel the need to attack me, he just went on and added his comments...

you are the troll who has absolutely NOTHING to add to any intelligent conversation which you show time and time...
 
I respect veterans against the war, the Veterans against the Iraq war group however is a schill group, who is notably quiet these days.


I know many veterans against the war, so I no not what your point is. Thanks.

You just contradicted yourself here and in your other post.


What makes you think the Iraq Vets are a schill group? Do you understand that a majority of Iraq vets feel the war wasn't worth it?
 
Funny, no one in the last 65 posts prior to yours was offended by my "trollish, inflammatory language"...one other poster didn't agree with my wording, but didn't feel the need to attack me, he just went on and added his comments...

you are the troll who has absolutely NOTHING to add to any intelligent conversation which you show time and time...




you fool no one.

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What "intelligent conversation" have you contributed? Your opening post was nothing more than "der der der should After the most recent events in Afghanistan, is it time to cut our losses and bring the troops home?"

that was it, no analysis, just a simple question. Please, by all means, what is your opinion, or is it a "secret". :roll:
 
you fool no one.

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What "intelligent conversation" have you contributed? Your opening post was nothing more than "der der der should After the most recent events in Afghanistan, is it time to cut our losses and bring the troops home?"

that was it, no analysis, just a simple question. Please, by all means, what is your opinion, or is it a "secret". :roll:

Yes, that is the point of a poll...to find out what people think...hear all sides and what their views are...is that too hard for you to comprehend?...why is it no one else had an issue with it?...why is it so hard for you to just post your opinion and move on or better yet, if you don't want to add anything, just move on to another thread...your staling is getting to be a bit much...
 
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